[CQ-Contest] Contest within a contest

[RT Clay]

Yes, it would be a huge effort to re-invent the log checking. And the effect is significant. For example, according to https://www.cqww.com/publiclcr/, the average score deduction for 2018 CQWW was 13.7% for SSB and 8.9% for CW.

Tor N4OGW



On Sunday, March 15, 2020, 2:33:36 PM CDT, Steve London <n2icarrl at gmail.com> wrote: 





The third party would need to reinvent the wheel in terms of log checking.

73,
Steve, N2IC

On 03/15/2020 10:15 AM, k5zd at charter.net wrote:
> Not necessarily.  The third party could download all the logs and do their
> own scoring.  The only things the public logs are missing are the checklogs.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+k5zd=charter.net at contesting.com> On
> Behalf Of Steve London
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> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest within a contest
> 
> Without access to the UBN's (LCR's), the validity of an independent party
> scoring a contest within a contest is questionable.
> 
> 73,
> Steve, N2IC
> 
> On 03/15/2020 06:35 AM, k5zd at charter.net wrote:
>> The grid-locator has not been removed from the CQ WW and WPX public logs.
> Not all logs included this information, but for those that did, it appears
> in their public log.
>>
>> The grid-locator information was just added to the contest submissions
> (and to the Cabrillo spec) in 2019.
>>
>> Randy K5ZD
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+k5zd=charter.net at contesting.com>
>> On Behalf Of ko7ss--- via CQ-Contest
>> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 2:35 AM
>> To: Reflector Cq-contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contest within a contest
>>
>> On 3/13/2020 01:01 PM, Edward Sawyer wrote:
>>
>> "your groups would be better served by using the contest weekend
> assignment and exchange and basic scoring rules as an "open source"
> activity. Sponsor your own contest within a contest that operates during the
> weekend and interfaces with the existing contesters but have your own set of
> rules. Enter as checklogs to the sponsors and see if the sponsors will
> provide all the logs to you for your own scoring and cross checking"
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> This is a very interesting idea. The CQWW and CQ WPX public logs are
> already available in Cabrillo format, the ARRL DX logs in non Cabrillo
> format.
>>
>> It would be interesting to see distance based scoring applied to the CQWW
> and ARRL DX contests. Most interesting would be the CQ WPX with 1 point Q X
> mults scoring.
>>
>> The W3KM Cabrillo evaluator could be used (?) to rescore the top 50 logs
> in each category. The only problem is the Maidenhead grid square has been
> removed from the public logs for "privacy reasons", even though a grid
> square is 500 sq miles in size.
>>
>> A website Realcontestscores.com could be set up.
>>
>> Maybe the Top Ten results would all be the same. Maybe not.
>>
>> Maybe when a few sunspots come back no one will care that coastal W1/2/3's
> dominate the Top Ten. For now though I am considering hiring a social media
> PR firm to promote my 2 hour 20M EU opening on 20M, Watch out W1/Maine, I'm
> coming for you next year!
>>
>> 73, Bill KO7SS in Arizona
>>
>>
>>
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