[CQ-Contest] RES: CQ WPX M/M Distributed Category Update

Thu Apr 1 16:16:49 EDT 2021

I'm not trying to be negative but with all due respect if this was such 
an exciting break thru why were there only a few entries in this so 
called exciting new category (?)  Anyone can invite a youth operator 
to 
their station in person OR remotely operate it as a Multi-Op so I guess 
I don't understand how this all correlates to having seven different 
stations being operated using one call sign? All seven stations operated 
by WW1X were on the Remote Ham Radio network. You could've had seven 
separate Multi-Multi operations with separate call signs and had double 
(or more) youth operators given the chance to operate a big station. 
What a great idea it would be having these youth operators competing 
against their peers instead of all of us old guys? It's apparent W2RE is 
a very smart guy for figuring out how to get this distributed remote 
setup to work (kudos to him) but I really don't think this is the future 
of contesting because most contesters don't have the resources W2RE has 
or just don't have the desire to do this.

When I was youngster I was lucky to be invited to operate at some big 
multi-op stations and it definitely shaped me as a contester so I 
understand Ray's enthusiasm about giving young contesters a chance at 
operating a big station. Good for him and it would be nice if other big 
station owners shared his enthusiasm

Jeff

On 4/1/2021 11:42 AM, Ray Higgins wrote:
> It sure is creating a buzz. We’re doing club presentations throughout the USA on zoom wanting to know more about the WW1X M/M distributed operation and the new category created by WPX committee. In the past CQWW had a category called Extreme but it was introduced to early. It would 
be a big hit today! Just about the time we were going to compete in that contest it was eliminated. I sure hope CQWW adapts something fun like WPX 
did. I look at contesting different than most here - we’re about exposing contesting to young people and pushing the envelope with innovation remotely. It’s actually exciting to watch a young kid handle a pileup for the first time, when I mean watch they stream it on social media. Congratulations to Dave K1TTT who has opened up his station remote for young people to learn and it’s paying off in a big way! I’m sure Dave knows exactly what I mean. A group of youths will be doing 
a M/S in SP contest. This is exactly what we need in this hobby right now!
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> The PS2T team is absolutely correct this is a new sensation. This sensation can only continue if other contest organizations adapt. I hope they do!
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>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 10:14 AM, PY2NY <py2ny.vitor at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Great Report! MM Distributed is a new sensation
>> around the world.
>>
>> 73 DX
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>> PY2NY / SP9NY / V26NY  - Vitor Luis Aidar dos Santos
>> http://military-jeep-brasil.blogspot.com.br/
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>>> Em qua., 31 de mar. de 2021 às 23:37, <py2led at fuertesind.com.br> 
escreveu:
>>>
>>> Hello ham friends, Good evening!
>>>
>>> I would like to share our experience on this MM Distributed last weekend
>>> from Brazil where we used PS2T special callsign.
>>>
>>> We organized our join on this category 2 weeks before the contest. From
>>> only 3 stations and 11 operators we covered from 10 to 80m.
>>>
>>> The spirit of competition, joining forces with your country friends
>>> carrying your country flag into the top scores was an amazing experience.
>>>
>>> We make a trial, without the available remote technology to cover all 
the
>>> Brazilian territory.  Each of the 3 stations running it´s normal 
radio´s
>>> (FTdx101D, FTdx5000, K3, FT1000MP, TS590S and TS590SG) with DXLog Free and
>>> Very nice software with VPN network hosted in one server was enough to
>>> control everything.  Internal chat´s was good to make our "interlock" when
>>> on same frequency. Sometimes I was listening stations on 10 meters and the
>>> other Distributed running station could not listen. So just send a message
>>> into GAB´s window to stop and let me work that station and/or multiplier.
>>> Of course is using Serial Interlock this is much faster and productive.
>>> Only a single idea about how funny and crazy this operation can be.
>>>
>>> Can you image the limits of this category?   For example in PYland, we can
>>> have 160m, 80m and 40m located in the extreme North at Amapa´s State
>>> (Border with Guyana and Suriname) to bring a lot of 6 points QSOs from EU
>>> and USA mixed with other station members at same bands and frequency in
>>> other areas.  Someone can´t listen but the other can and Bingo....one more
>>> qso in the log.   20m in the middle of country, 15m at Southest and 10m at
>>> extreme South in Rio Grande do Sul near Uruguai.
>>>
>>> With planning, very nice scores can be achieved. Each country members
>>> knows it´s potential. But to make this possible, some common things must
>>> connect the group as UNION, FRIENDSHIP, ORGANIZATION and other.
>>>
>>> I fully respect all individual opinions. That is no RIGHT or WRONG.  For
>>> me, this category is very modern and brings challenges. If you like, jump
>>> on it. If not, no problem, just make the qso.
>>>
>>> 73´s and see you on air.
>>>
>>> Fernando / PY2LED / PX2A
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>>> -----Mensagem original-----
>>> De: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+py2led=fuertesind.com.br at contesting.com>
>>> Em nome de Michael Walker
>>> Enviada em: segunda-feira, 29 de março de 2021 22:02
>>> Para: Michael Ritz <w7vo at comcast.net>
>>> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
>>> Assunto: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WPX M/M Distributed Category Update
>>>
>>> This idea is about technology.  Its impact to the number of stations to
>>> work is slightly above 0.    All these stations were interlocked as well.
>>> Not a trivial setup.
>>>
>>> It got more people on the air for the contest who may not have had a
>>> chance to get on the air at all.
>>>
>>> It is no different then 10 top contesters travelling somewhere to do a
>>> M/M.    The impact to the number of stations on the air is not even
>>> measurable.
>>>
>>> Mike va3mw
>>>
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>>>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 8:29 PM, Michael Ritz <w7vo at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> I agree with Joe for one simple reason: The reason guys are 
using
>>> remotes is because they don't have a station at home to operate from, 
at
>>> least one that is contest worthy! I know one of the guys that was part of
>>> the WW1X team lives in a high-rise apartment, with absolutely no chance to
>>> get on the air at all except with perhaps an indoor antenna, low power, and
>>> FT-8.
>>>> The more people we can get active in contesting, the better we all will
>>> be. I'm sure not all of those 26 operators had 100 foot towers with stacks
>>> of yagis home to work with. They had that chance to be a big gun, and 
had
>>> fun. Isn't that what it's all about?
>>>>
>>>> 73;
>>>> Mike
>>>> W7VO
>>>>
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>>>>> On 03/29/2021 2:07 PM Joe <nss at mwt.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How does it do that? If they were all in one place doing a
>>>>> multi/multi isn't it all the same?
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/29/2021 2:13 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/29/2021 6:21 AM, Ray Higgins (W2RE) wrote:
>>>>>>> The WW1X team entered the M/M distributed category this weekend. We
>>>>>>> managed 23.5 million points in adverse conditions in this new
>>>>>>> category from USA zone #5 with 7 stations and 13 operating positions.
>>>>>>> Our team consisted of 26 operators from eight countries
>>>>>> I think this category is a TERRIBLE idea, simply because it reduces
>>>>>> the number of stations to work, as well has their prefixes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73, Jim K9YC
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