[CQ-Contest] NAQP - Rules Changes Needed

Sun Aug 8 23:00:13 EDT 2021

Thanks, Dennis.  You raise an interesting question - if you use spots 
only to see how *you* are getting out, and not to identify specific 
stations to call, is that assisted?  I think I can do that with an AR 
cluster V6 node and a little filter trickery. I see all spots of me now, 
while limiting spots of stations to work to those spotted by RBN nodes 
in my area.

My antenna situation is a little better than yours - I have a small 
tribander up 50 feet.  Most of my time is spent on wires at less than 
that height.

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
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For spots, please use your favorite
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On 8/8/2021 8:08 PM, dbmcalpine73 at gmail.com wrote:
> I agree with Pete's comments about adding an "Assisted" class to NAQP.  Like
> Pete, I live in a gated community and no towers are allowed.  That means I
> have to use "wires in the woods" and my "woods" are only about 35' tall.  I
> can make up for some of that by using higher (500-600 watts) but not in
> NAQP, at least if one wants to contribute their score to a team effort.
> Same if one wants to do SO(A) and get pushed into an M/2 category.  So, now
> I am reduced to a lot of S&P or continually fighting to beat off interlopers
> on "MY" frequency.  And, I don't know if the person calling CQ is a dupe or
> not until often it is too late so I find myself making more dupes than I
> like or suddenly cutting my call short and hoping the guy did not figure out
> who I was.
>
> On Sat. afternoon, I occasionally checked 10M and found several TX stations
> coming through with loud signals.  But, there were only two of them that
> happened to be sending when I was listening.  With SO(A) I might have known
> there was some activity and maybe more people would have gone to 10M when it
> was open.  Not all 10M opening occurs on the hour, you know.
>
> Also, Pete, you will be happy to know I miss the RBN spots, particularly the
> signal reports.  That gives me a pretty good idea of how I am being heard
> and where and if it makes sense to hazard calling "CQ".  Now, it is like
> flying blind.  Just prior to this contest I put up several new antennas but
> still have no idea of how they were working.  The RBN info would have helped
> tell me that info.
>
> I do enter calls into the n1mm band map but that is of limited use, as y'all
> know.  I am also awaiting a K4 (probably in another two years at this rate).
> I have not checked to see if I can turn off the pan adapter. If not, would
> that push me back into M/2.  Maybe I could just tape a piece of paper over
> the pan adapter but that would look pretty strange on my QRZ.com page.
>
> It is not like adding an SO(A) category would mean adding a bunch of
> trophies.  Well, maybe one would suffice.  I could even live with not having
> a trophy available.  I'm certainly not going to win it with my setup.
>
> SO, how about it guys.  Are you SO(U) guys really that afraid that a SO(A)
> op will beat you?  Maybe we should give it a couple of trials and see what
> happens.
>
> 73,
> Dennis, K2SX
>
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> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Batavia contest
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> The YB Batavia FT8 contest is this UTC weekend, all 48 hours.??
>
> I tried to help out by working a few participants, all statesiders (CQ WW),
> with no luck, so I though I'd better check the rules.? I found the
> following:
>
> "QSO with same country will count for zero (0) point but still possible
> count for Country or Prefixes multiplier."
>
>
> This seems a poor rule, especially for a 48 hour contest with
> little?activity, at least here in NA.??
>
> Even so, with prefixes as mults, it's odd no one would work me. Must be wall
> to wall AB1 stations out there.
>
>
> The rule itself?is borrowed from the CQ WW rules.? Although?the CQ WW
> contests are the biggest and most popular, its rules come from?1948 and are
> dated, if not obsolete now.
>
> 73,
> Ken, AB1J
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> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 08:21:05 -0400
> From: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [CQ-Contest] NAQP CW - Rules Changes Needed
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> Now that this running is behind us, the organizers need to seriously
> consider a change in the rules.
>
> It is unnecessary, and downright punitive, to push assisted single ops into
> Multi-2, instead of creating a separate single op assisted category. Many of
> us, with limited antennas (see HOAs) can only S&P.
> Without assistance, operating becomes a deadly boring sequence of tune,
> copy, type the call in, be told it's a dupe, and repeat.
>
> The rule now consigns assisted ops to submergence in the multi-op category,
> when it would be so simple to create a single-op assisted category. It's
> certainly not in the interest of expanding NAQP participation to continue
> punishing assisted ops this way.? Time to act!
>
> --
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network web server at
> <http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
> For spots, please use your favorite
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