[CQ-Contest] Past Prediction of the Future of Contesting.

[rjairam at gmail.com]

A lot of hams are indeed anti technology.

Anything beyond "a boy and his radio" twiddling knobs is viewed as
"not real ham radio."

It's a pervasive attitude in some circles in ham radio.

And it's against both basis and purpose and the amateur's code.

Ria
N2RJ

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 2:58 PM ku8e <ku8e at ku8e.com> wrote:
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> RiaMaybe you did but before that statement you stated that "Hams are anti-technology". It seems to me you were suggesting that anyone who doesn't embrace assisted technology such as skimmer was against technology. Most serious contesters use lots of technology such as logging computers, radio control, CW keying, voicekeyers etc...I didn't rant about anything. I was just stating the facts. BTW not wanting to embrace technology isn't limited to only amateur radio. I have many older friends and family that just like doing things the way they always have.JeffSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> -------- Original message --------From: rjairam at gmail.com Date: 8/23/21  7:05 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: Jeff Clarke <ku8e at ku8e.com> Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest at contesting.com> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Past Prediction of the Future of Contesting. Re-read what I said. You read the first part then went off on a rantbased on that alone.I did say you should have a choice. But "Please, no, a thousand timesNO!" by Hans means that he doesn't want that piece of tech to exist.THAT is being anti-technology.RiaN2RJOn Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:17 PM Jeff Clarke <ku8e at ku8e.com> wrote:>> Ria,>> With all due respect just because some of us of us don't want to use> certain technologies doesn't make us "anti technology"? Do all of us> have to operate the same way using the same technologies? Have you ever> thought that there are many contesters who like to operate non-assisted> because it gives them more personal satisfaction? Personally I get more> satisfaction finding my own contacts and multipliers instead of> operating in a way that's like catching fish in a barrel. I can> guarantee there are many contesters who have the same feeling as I do. I> have no problem if people operate the way they want to. (assisted or> non-assisted) Unfortunately the Single-Op rule changes in CQ WPX has> taken away the option to choose the way you want to operate. Pretty much> you have to operate assisted if you want to have a competitive score.>> Jeff KU8E>>> On 8/22/2021 5:49 PM, rjairam at gmail.com wrote:> > 97.1 Basis and purpose.> >> > ...> >> > (b) Continuation and extension of the amateur's proven ability to> > contribute to the advancement of the radio art.> >> > Hams being so anti technology is mind blowing. I have never seen such> > a paradox except in ham radio.> >> > (yes, it also talks about skill but that doesn't mean we have to shun> > technology).> >> > You don't have to use a voice skimmer, but someone will invent it. I> > hope that contest rules at least adapt to it - keep the unassisted> > categories (too late CQ WPX) without skimmer but allow it for assisted> > or "unlimited" categories.> >> > We already have the existing cluster with all of the "mechanical> > turks" putting in DX spots anyway.> >> > 73> > Ria, N2RJ> >> > On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 10:01 PM Hans Brakob <kzerohb at gmail.com> wrote:> >> Please, no, a thousand times NO!> >>> >> 73, de Hans, KØHB> >> “Just a Boy and his Radio”™> >> ________________________________> >> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+kzerohb=gmail.com at contesting.com> on behalf of Richard F DiDonna NN3W <richnn3w at gmail.com>> >> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2021 7:25:35 AM> >> To: Frank Donovan W3LPL (Frank Donovan W3LPL) <donovanf at erols.com>> >> Cc: reflector cq-contest <CQ-Contest at contesting.com>> >> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Past Prediction of the Future of Contesting.> >>> >> I guess the logical follow-up is what's next:> >>> >> I vote for voice "skimmer"...> >>> >> 73 Rich NN3W> >>> >> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 8:18 AM <donovanf at erols.com> wrote:> >>> >>> Thanks for sharing this Pete.> >>>> >>>> >>> Many of the forecasts proved to be accurate, but as often happens> >>> with forecasts , two of the most revolutionary changes that have> >>> greatly impacted contesting were totally unanticipated:> >>>> >>>> >>> - CW Skimmer and its associated Reverse Beacon Network, and> >>> - Explosive growth in the use of digital error correcting protocols,> >>> especially FT8> >>>> >>>> >>> "It’s tough to make predictions, especially about the future" – Yogi Berra> >>>> >>> 73> >>> Frank> >>> W3LPL> >>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----> >>>> >>> From: "Pete Smith N4ZR" <pete.n4zr at gmail.com>> >>> To: "reflector cq-contest" <CQ-Contest at Contesting.COM>> >>> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2021 2:17:22 AM> >>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Past Prediction of the Future of Contesting.> >>>> >>> In 2007, ES5TV compiled reflector users' predictions/guesses/wild-ass> >>> guesses about what contesting would look like ten years hence. It's now> >>> 4 years past his original time horizon, and I thought people would find> >>> it interesting, so I've put it in my Dropbox account at> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uzpj6vhxuqtp6sf/10%20years%20later.pdf?dl=0> >>> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/uzpj6vhxuqtp6sf/10%20years%20later.pdf?dl=0>.> >>> Feel free to download the pdf and giggle...> >>>> >>> --> >>> 73, Pete N4ZR> >>> Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network> >>> web server at <http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.> >>> For spots, please use your favorite> >>> "retail" DX cluster.> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________> >>> CQ-Contest mailing list> >>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com> >>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest> >>>> >> _______________________________________________> >> CQ-Contest mailing list> >> CQ-Contest at contesting.com> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest> >> _______________________________________________> >> CQ-Contest mailing list> >> CQ-Contest at contesting.com> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest> > _______________________________________________> > CQ-Contest mailing list> > CQ-Contest at contesting.com> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest> _______________________________________________> CQ-Contest mailing list> CQ-Contest at contesting.com> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest_______________________________________________CQ-Contest mailing listCQ-Contest at contesting.comhttp://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
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