[CQ-Contest] Spoofed Spots

[Pete Smith N4ZR]

Really?  for CW?  Then they are forgoing 99 percent of spots.

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
web server at<http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" DX cluster.

On 12/6/2021 6:02 AM, Richard F DiDonna NN3W wrote:
> A goodly number of users out there have skimmer spots turned off and 
> only rely on "human" spots.
>
> 73 Rich NN3W
>
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 10:22 PM Stan Stockton <wa5rtg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     I have no idea how any manual internet spots are of any value
>     whatsoever on CW.  If you call CQ you are instantly spotted by
>     every skimmer in the world who detects your signal.  You are
>     essentially “self spotting” if you call CQ.
>
>     How much perceived benefit is imagined for any number of internet
>     spots, real or otherwise as compared to maybe 10,000 real spots
>     created by the simple task of pressing F1 throughout a contest?
>
>     Stan, K5GO/ZF9CW
>
>     > On Dec 3, 2021, at 12:03 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR
>     <pete.n4zr at gmail.com> wrote:
>     >
>     > I'm really surprised at the apparent disregard for VE7CC's
>     report of spoofed spots and spoofed self-spots during CQWWCW, all
>     seemingly traced to a single IP in Italy.  After the first time
>     this happened, a month earlier (CQWWSSB), we were assured that the
>     committee had it in hand, with reliable reps in Italy pursuing the
>     answer.  Since then, nothing.
>     >
>     > How about a status report - if people can pull this sort of
>     thing with impunity, it will certainly damage efforts to enforce
>     the appropriate rule against self-spotting.
>     >
>     > To refresh memories:
>     >
>     > ">From the VE7CC-1 cluster log.
>     >
>     > 27 Nov total spoofed spots 599 out of 30018  non skimmer spots.
>     > 28 Nov total spoofed spots 1117 out of  30073 non skimmer spots.
>     > Total 1716 spoofed spots from IP 217.61.58.23 over weekend.
>     > Includes
>     > 203 self spots 27 Nov 2021
>     > 385 self spots 28 Nov 2021
>     >
>     > These spoofed spots are only the ones that I identified with IP
>     217.61.58.23.
>     > These spots were entered on both DX Spider and CC Cluster
>     nodes.  There could
>     > be more from AR Cluster or Spider nodes running software that
>     doesn't include
>     > IP addresses.
>     >
>     > https://bcdxc.org/ve7cc/SelfSpot-Nov-2021.zip
>     > http://bcdxc.org/ve7cc/27-Nov-2021.zip
>     > http://bcdxc.org/ve7cc/28-Nov-2021.zip
>     >
>     > Lee VE7CC"
>     >
>     > --
>     > 73, Pete N4ZR
>     > Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
>     > web server at<http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
>     > For spots, please use your favorite
>     > "retail" DX cluster.
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