[CQ-Contest] Running by the numbers

[Trent Sampson]

Lord Howe Island in the Peak of Cycle 21 as VK2ATZ was close and yes, the JA wall was unbelievable. 

Please go back to the original question. 

"If you are an hold hand with phone pileups I would very much 
appreciate tips that I can pass on to my team.  Of course, we try 
things like running split (although that's a new experience for some) 
and going by numbers (how long do you stay on a number?).  Please pass 
on your tips and I'll share with my folks."

Runing by numbers will help inexperienced operators as will split. 
Running split will give you the advantage of dropping power a lot to not attract as many stations and reducing the pileup. Increase power when things start to go quiet. 
If I had an inexperienced crew and the "pileups are brutal" you could try two operators with two keyboards and two instances of logging software. Only one operator of course. On CW you can have two ops but changing voices on SSB will cause confusion. (But the pileup would get used to it) By running split and having two ears on the pile different "letters" will be picked out. 
My take is to run split - Move the RX frequency around and run by numbers - BUT if you run by numbers never get out of sync. Add to that only run a few of each number eg 2 or 3 and then change. 

Good Luck 

Trent VK4TS 






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From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+vk4ts=outlook.com at contesting.com> On Behalf Of Hans Brakob
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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Running by the numbers

You're never been on Guam beaming USA on 15m, over the top of 1.2 million JA "10 watters", all needing their first KG6 in the log

73, de Hans, KØHB
"Just a Boy and his Radio"T
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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Running by the numbers

As a rule I never do it. I've had some thick pileups like ARRL centennial and 13 colonies. I just never do it. I have other ways to thin the pile that to me are more effective.

73
Ria, N2RJ

On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 2:13 PM Bill kollenbaum via CQ-Contest <cq-contest at contesting.com> wrote:
>
> I've been running by the numbers for years...when necessary.  I've done it  both in and out of contests.
> from KH6 fluttery weak EU stations were an issue, as were big USA pileups.
> Keys to success:
> Only do it when your rate slows because you can't pull them out fast 
> enough (especially in spotted pileups) Stick to the number.  NEVER call someone with the wrong number.  You'll be sorry you did.
> Go quickly through the numbers...maybe two or three for each to avoid getting the natives restless.
> End with zeroes or nines.  The guys get pissed if you stop at five or six etc.
> Back around 2009 a few guys and I decided to a 1E  from my station in KH6 using high power.  The pileups were as big as I've ever had and we were forced to go by the numbers.  Dozens of modest FD stations all sounded like an S-5 buzz.  We did the numbers for hours with that one.  However, one of the inexperienced guys broke the cardinal rule and started taking anybody while doing it by the numbers and all hell broke loose.
> Bill  K4XS/KH7XS/V31XX
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