[CQ-Contest] Physics of 2 Keyboard SO2R

dimitri cosson-dimitri at bbox.fr
Mon Jul 12 14:35:36 EDT 2021


Hi Mike,

As SO2R, I use a single keyboard so I'm not in the best position to help you....
I'm also not ergonomist but I would say that your neck pain comes from a bad position of the screens (height/left/right) !
You have to limit  the movements (visually on the screens by moving the eyes and not the head).
The height of your chair is probably not appropriate with the desk. You should adjust the height of the chair/armchair so that the elbows are about the same height as the desk surface. If your feet are off the floor, opt for a footrest, but never lower the chair so that your feet are on the floor.
If you have enough place, try also a vertical mouse (with high DPI to limit movements).

And I would recommend to use always the same setup (SO2R - 2 keyboards), regardless of the practice done (2BSIQ, run + S&P, S&P + S&P), it will the only solution for your brain, your hands, your whole body to acquire the automatisms and to find your best posture / equipment location.

73 de Dimitri F4DSK / TM3Z


Le 12 juil. 2021 à 18:58, à 18:58, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca> a écrit:
>This is just about KB size & placement, body movement, neck/shoulder
>pain,
>not specifically "how do you do it" (if that makes sense)
>
> 
>
>I have 2 x 17.5" wide full size keyboards with a mini sized-mouse in
>between
>(almost no room for it to move)
>
>They are slightly slanted left/right in a flying vee formation to fit
>my
>small desk. (instead of 100% in-line)
>
>My tabletop is a little high at 32".
>
>The seat of my chair is 22" to the uncompressed seatpad.
>
>I am about 5'7" tall (and 57 yrs old) with the typical middle age
>spread
>stomach.
>
> 
>
>I don't practice 2KB SO2R so only use it a few times a year, as I don't
>do
>2BSIQ SO2R (run/run) in every contest.
>
>Some contests I might run on one keyboard and S&P on the second in a
>very
>minor way.  The physical problem seems to come when I do 2BSIQ run/run.
> In
>IARU this weekend, Cabstats told me I made 363 bandchanges, so I don't
>know
>if that means I twisted 726 times or what (or even more due to
>unanswered
>CQ's).  At times I had to stop the 2nd radio as I was in too much
>pain.(hi)
>
> 
>
>Sooooo, how do you get around neck shoulder pain from the constant
>twisting?
>
> 
>
>I tend to swivel my chair a little help reduce it(and my
>legs/hips/stomach/core are fine), but even after a few hours I find I
>have a
>stabbing pain in my shoulder blades & neck.
>
> 
>
>Is my tabletop too high? (probably..I put wheels on my huge shack desk
>after
>I had everything planned & built some 17 yrs ago and now think that was
>a
>mistake.)
>
> 
>
>My chair is as high as it'll go.
>
> 
>
>I don't really want to go to mini keyboards as I am a hunt n' peck
>typist
>and I see everything fairly well as it is.
>
> 
>
>How do you guys do 2KB SO2R and avoid pain?
>
> 
>
>Tnx
>
> 
>
>Mike VE9AA "5NN N" this past weekend
>
>(tnx for all the Q's !)
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Mike, Coreen & Corey
>
>Keswick Ridge, NB
>
> 
>
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