[CQ-Contest] Contesting and the FT8 Revolution

PY2NY py2ny.vitor at gmail.com
Sat Jun 19 19:31:37 EDT 2021

My two cents...

I look ahead and still think that I have so much to
do in CW & SSB (*or even RTTY*). FT8 will *maybe*
aomething to me, probably after my retirement,
in five years. Let's see...

Anyway, looking from other point of view, now I
am "FT8-lover" because we can use it like a
propagation monitor. I still need to understand
it better, but CT1BOH conferences were superb!!

I am sure that will see all of you next IARU HF
Championship (*Mixed CW & SSB*), WAEDC (*SSB,*
*CW & RTTY*), CQ WW both modes and ARRL 10

C Y A and don't forget to put your antennas to
south...  Bye bye
PY2NY / SP9NY / V26NY  - Vitor Luis Aidar dos Santos

Em sáb., 19 de jun. de 2021 às 18:49, Alan M. Eshleman <doctore at well.com>

> I also use FT-8 for the same situations that Jim mentions.  It's often the
> difference between making a QSO and listening to static.  And, yes, a
> computer did not do many of the things that I needed to be a ham radio
> operator.
> But for me--at age 77--the most important thing a computer does not do is
> capture the thrill and joy that I experienced when I first went on he air
> 62 years ago and which I still experience. The thrill is just not there
> when I make an FT-8 QSO unless it's some sort of ATNO.
> Enjoy these new digital modes. YMMV.  For me, they don't deliver the
> emotional satisfaction of CW or phone.  I'll give a pass to RTTY since that
> mode allows actual discourse.
> 73, Alan, K6SRZ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Brown <k9yc at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Sent: Sat, 19 Jun 2021 10:40:25 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contesting and the FT8 Revolution
> On 6/19/2021 8:24 AM, José Nunes CT1BOH wrote:
> > ** The spotting revolution
> >
> > ** The marginal bands revolution
> Yes indeed, the PSKReporter spotting system is an excellent way to study
> propagation. I've used it extensively on 6M for this purpose, AND to
> chase QSOs with stations in grids I want to work.
> >
> > With FT8, marginal bands like 160, 10 and 6 meters become alive like no
> > other. Going deeper into the SNR, “opens” new circuits, brings more
> > activity, confirms these circuits were always there. We are working Japan
> > on 6 meters on a daily basis... Also, there is a move from CW into FT8 on
> > these band. This is a side effect, but it is what it is. If people
> suddenly
> > find a band open at -21dB that before was close at -15dB, of course they
> > will use the mode that enables those QSOs and will not use the other mode
> > anymore.
> I've been using the modes developed by K1JT and his team extensively for
> nearly ten years, almost exclusively on 160M during the winter to fill
> in EU countries from my QTH near San Francisco, and on 6M to chase grids
> during the summer e-skip season. I'll use FT8 to work expeditions on HF,
> but I have yet to get bitten by the bug to use it during contests.
> My engineering judgement is that FT8 is able to work about 10 dB deeper
> into the noise than CW with great operators on both ends of the QSO. I
> STRONGLY encourage 160M operators to use the newer and even more
> powerful FST4, which provides an additional 4-9 dB advantage, depending
> on the transmission period.
> For those who consider these modes "not real ham radio, computers
> talking to each other," I know no one who can send or decode RTTY using
> only their ears, and the computer did not learn CW, radio and
> electronics, nor did it build my station, including my extensive antenna
> farm over 15 years.
> 73, Jim K9YC
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