[CQ-Contest] Is Self Spotting now allowed in ARRL tests?

[Steve Dyer W1SRD]

It's not any different. This whole issue is a nothing burger. The tech 
exists for a phone RBN, just no one has (bothered) to do it.
No, self spotting won't be the "end of contesting as we know it" (TM).
I am far more worried about the skewed distribution of CK numbers in my 
log.
73,
Steve
W1SRD

On 11/23/2022 9:52 AM, Lee Hiers wrote:
> How is that materially different from having a program that automatically
> spots every S&P contact, clogging the cluster with spots of CQing stations?
>
> 73 de Lee, AA4GA
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 7:19 PM Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It makes no sense to encourage stations to clog the clusters with spots
>> of themselves, just because they can.
>>
>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>> Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
>> web server at<https://reversebeacon.net>.
>> For spots, please use your favorite
>> "retail" DX cluster.
>>
>> On 11/22/2022 12:12 PM, Tim Shoppa wrote:
>>> Bob W5OV of the ARRL has corrected me.
>>>
>>> He writes "Your reading of PROH.3 is not correct. That exclusion is
>>> specifically about making schedules, soliciting contacts (i.e.; CQing),
>> and
>>> sending or receiving the required QSO exchange information via
>> non-amateur
>>> means. It says nothing about spotting."
>>>
>>> I myself fail to see any distinction between self-spotting on a Telnet
>>> cluster, and soliciting i.e. CQing using non-amateur means, but that's
>>> official from W5OV of ARRL.
>>>
>>> Tim N3QE
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 9:13 AM Tim Shoppa<tshoppa at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> First, make sure you have the latest rules. ARRL didn't update the
>>>> November SS rules (to the latest, version 1.06) on their website until
>> late
>>>> August. Prior to that we just had a confusing tease about self-spotting
>>>> from a Contest Update earlier in the year.
>>>>
>>>> Link to current SS rules:
>>>> https://contests.arrl.org/ContestRules/SS-Rules.pdf
>>>>
>>>> My reading of SS rule PROH.3 in version 1.06 of the rules, is that
>>>> self-spotting is a form of soliciting contacts by a non-amateur radio
>> means
>>>> (in this case Telnet cluster) and thus prohibited:
>>>>
>>>> "Examples of prohibited conduct [...]: PROH.3. Arranging, soliciting, or
>>>> confirming any contacts during or after the contest by use of any
>>>> non-amateur radio means."
>>>>
>>>> One clarification in 1.06 does explicitly allow a corner case of
>> spotting,
>>>> that was never previously mentioned in past contest rules. In the
>>>> definition section you will find, "Generating spotting information for
>> use
>>>> by other stations is not considered to be spotting assistance." So for
>>>> example you can be hooked up to a cluster and sending spots, as long as
>>>> you've set all the filters such that nothing ever comes in to you from
>> the
>>>> cluster.
>>>>
>>>> Tim N3QE
>>>>
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