[CQ-Contest] Self spotting
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Fri Feb 2 15:37:46 EST 2024
Thanks to all who responded. I don't like the idea, but to stay competivew i will do it.
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Today's Topics:
1. Self spot in ARRL DX (cqtestk4xs at aol.com)
2. Re: Self spot in ARRL DX (Stan Stockton)
3. Re: Self spot in ARRL DX (john at kk9a.com)
4. CTY-3404 Country Files - 02 February 2024 (Jim Reisert AD1C)
5. Final 2023 CQ WW SSB Scores Available (John Dorr)
6. Re: Self spot in ARRL DX (Henry Pollock - K4TMC)
7. CW Sprint Teams (ku8e)
8. Re: Self spot in ARRL DX (Stan Stockton)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2024 01:59:24 +0000 (UTC)
From: "cqtestk4xs at aol.com" <cqtestk4xs at aol.com>
To: CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Self spot in ARRL DX
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I know self spotting is now allowed in ARRL DX if you are assisted.?Is it also allowed for UNASSISTED?
Bill V31XX/K4XS
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2024 21:20:48 -0500
From: Stan Stockton <wa5rtg at gmail.com>
To: "cqtestk4xs at aol.com" <cqtestk4xs at aol.com>
Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self spot in ARRL DX
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Yes, it is allowed for all participants in all categories.
Stan, K5GO/ZF9CW
> On Feb 1, 2024, at 9:14?PM, cqtestk4xs--- via CQ-Contest <cq-contest at contesting.com> wrote:
>
> ?I know self spotting is now allowed in ARRL DX if you are assisted. Is it also allowed for UNASSISTED?
> Bill V31XX/K4XS
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2024 21:39:57 -0500
From: <john at kk9a.com>
To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self spot in ARRL DX
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Yes it's allowed.
I am wondering how stations are self-spotting efficiently? Is there
self-spotting software?
John KK9A
Bill K4XS wrote:
I know self spotting is now allowed in ARRL DX if you are assisted. Is it
also allowed for UNASSISTED?
Bill V31XX/K4XS
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2024 19:41:49 -0700
From: "Jim Reisert AD1C" <jjreisert at alum.mit.edu>
To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CTY-3404 Country Files - 02 February 2024
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The Country (CTY) Files were updated on 02 February 2024:
https://www.country-files.com/cty-3404-02-february-2024/
For installation instructions, start at:
https://www.country-files.com/
Hover your mouse over the word Contest in the menu, then select the
software you are using.
To install the file, follow the link to your software at the top of the page.
If you are interested in a bigger CTY.DAT for everyday logging, you can get
it here:
https://www.country-files.com/big-cty-02-february-2024/
Note that the release notes (and Version Entity) for this larger file are
different than what is shown below. There is a separate link to them.
As a reminder, there is an RSS feed of the latest country file announcements:
https://www.country-files.com/feed/
Here are the release notes:
2 February 2024 (CTY-3404)
VER20240202, Version entity is Ukraine, UR
Added/changed Entities/Prefixes/Callsigns:
* KC4USC is Antarctica, CE9 in CQ zone 30, ITU zone 71
* EA2EZ/P is Spain, EA
* GB1RB is Scotland, GM
* IR0RIVA is Sardinia, IS
* AB4B is United States, K in CQ zone 4, ITU zone 8
* W3OGG is Hawaii, KH6
* KE8UML is Alaska, KL
* K6VH is Puerto Rico, KP4
* LW2DJG/D and LW6DGI/D are both Argentina, LU
* LU1VJK/V and LU1VZ/V are both Argentina, LU in ITU zone 16
* R81AWD is European Russia, UA
* R8FF/8 and R8FF/P are both Asiatic Russia, UA9
* R4FBJ/0/P is Asiatic Russia, UA9 in CQ zone 18, ITU zone 32
* VE4COZ/7 is Canada, VE in CQ zone 3, ITU zone 2
Removed Entities/Prefixes/Callsigns:
* AB1U in United States, K
* KE8UML in Hawaii, KH6
* AD0DK in Alaska, KL
* LU/EA6LU/D and LU9JDZ/F in Argentina, LU
* R8FF/P in European Russia, UA
Though I am subscribed to this reflector so that I can make these
announcements, I do not see most messages posted to it. If you have
any comments or corrections to the country file, please contact me
directly.
73 - Jim AD1C
--
Jim Reisert AD1C, <jjreisert at alum.mit.edu>, https://ad1c.us
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2024 05:26:15 -0500
From: John Dorr <cqk1ar at gmail.com>
To: reflector cq-contest <CQ-Contest at contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Final 2023 CQ WW SSB Scores Available
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I am pleased to announce that the final scores for the 2023 CQ WW SSB contest are now available, a full two months earlier than previous years.
You can find the listings and certificates at:
https://www.cqww.com/scoresph.htm?page=1&yr=2023
My personal thanks go out to the CQWW Contest Committee for their hard work and dedication.
73, John, K1AR
CQ WW Contest Director
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2024 09:28:08 -0500
From: Henry Pollock - K4TMC <kilo4tmc at gmail.com>
To: Stan Stockton <wa5rtg at gmail.com>
Cc: "cqtestk4xs at aol.com" <cqtestk4xs at aol.com>, CQ-Contest Reflector
<cq-contest at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self spot in ARRL DX
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So...there is really no "unassisted" category anymore, right?
Wait a minute...I just looked at the latest ARRL International DX Contest
Rules, Categories for ARRL International DX Contest, Version 2.0 - 04 Jan
2024, Entry Categories For ARRL DX (page 4 of 11), which shows No Spotting
Assistance for SO and SOSB (reference HCAT.1.1 and HCAT.3.2.1).
The term "self-spotting" is not addressed. However, on page 11, there is a
whole paragraph on the definition (Version 1.05, 10 Feb 2022) of
"Spotting/QSO Finding Assistance" that ends with this sentence: "Generating
spotting information for use by other stations is not considered to be
spotting assistance". So, does this include self-spotting?
73,
Henry - K4TMC
(always unassisted and no spotting)
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 9:23?PM Stan Stockton <wa5rtg at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, it is allowed for all participants in all categories.
>
> Stan, K5GO/ZF9CW
>
> > On Feb 1, 2024, at 9:14?PM, cqtestk4xs--- via CQ-Contest <
> cq-contest at contesting.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?I know self spotting is now allowed in ARRL DX if you are assisted. Is
> it also allowed for UNASSISTED?
> > Bill V31XX/K4XS
> > _______________________________________________
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2024 09:30:43 -0500
From: ku8e <ku8e at ku8e.com>
To: cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW Sprint Teams
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Anyone looking to join a CW Sprint team? Looking for a few more people to fill out our South East Sprint Coalition teams. Email me to let me know if you're I interested.Jeff KU8E?Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2024 09:48:00 -0500
From: Stan Stockton <wa5rtg at gmail.com>
To: Henry Pollock - K4TMC <kilo4tmc at gmail.com>
Cc: "cqtestk4xs at aol.com" <cqtestk4xs at aol.com>, CQ-Contest Reflector
<cq-contest at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self spot in ARRL DX
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I will attempt to explain the rationale. In CW contests everyone gets
spotted automatically. All you have to do is call CQ and if you have a
signal that can be heard you will be spotted on the RBN. In effect you are
doing something to cause yourself to be spotted just by calling CQ. There
is little argument that on CW it is perfectly fair since the existence of
the RBN.
However, on phone, there is no skimmer and those people who have more
friends, belong to bigger clubs, etc are spotted more often than the other
people. If everyone has the ability to self spot it doesn't put them in
the assisted category any more than being automatically spotted on the RBN
puts those operators in the assisted category. However, it makes it so
those who are using assistance have equal access to everyone who is calling
CQ.
Stan, K5GO
On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 9:28?AM Henry Pollock - K4TMC <kilo4tmc at gmail.com>
wrote:
> So...there is really no "unassisted" category anymore, right?
>
> Wait a minute...I just looked at the latest ARRL International DX Contest
> Rules, Categories for ARRL International DX Contest, Version 2.0 - 04 Jan
> 2024, Entry Categories For ARRL DX (page 4 of 11), which shows No Spotting
> Assistance for SO and SOSB (reference HCAT.1.1 and HCAT.3.2.1).
>
> The term "self-spotting" is not addressed. However, on page 11, there is
> a whole paragraph on the definition (Version 1.05, 10 Feb 2022) of
> "Spotting/QSO Finding Assistance" that ends with this sentence: "Generating
> spotting information for use by other stations is not considered to be
> spotting assistance". So, does this include self-spotting?
>
> 73,
> Henry - K4TMC
> (always unassisted and no spotting)
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 9:23?PM Stan Stockton <wa5rtg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, it is allowed for all participants in all categories.
>>
>> Stan, K5GO/ZF9CW
>>
>> > On Feb 1, 2024, at 9:14?PM, cqtestk4xs--- via CQ-Contest <
>> cq-contest at contesting.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > ?I know self spotting is now allowed in ARRL DX if you are assisted. Is
>> it also allowed for UNASSISTED?
>> > Bill V31XX/K4XS
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > CQ-Contest mailing list
>> > CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>>
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