[CQ-Contest] Self spot in ARRL DX

[Joe]

I use VE7CC as my default cluster, and I see RBN spots all the time. 
Even my own when I am CQing.

Make sure all your filters are off I would guess. Especially the setting 
that is sent when you first connect about what command turns them on/off.

Joe WB9SBD
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On 2/4/2024 11:28 PM, Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
> That is very curious.  My cluster w0mu.net  w0mu-1  CC cluster 
> includes RBN Spots as do most of the CC clusters that I know of. There 
> is a way to turn them off.  Many logging programs and CC User allow 
> the users some fairly extensive filtering.  I checked the RBN and N1W 
> was being heard and spotted.  That filtering should block or allow 
> regular or rbn spots though.
>
> When I did a lookup of N1W on my cluster sh/dx N1W 1000 (1000 spots)  
> No RBN spots were shown.  I don't seem to be able to lookup any RBN 
> spots, so it is possible that VE7CC does not save rbn spots due to the 
> size of the files that could be created.  I will contact Lee and ask.
>
> W0MU
>
> On 2/2/2024 8:18 PM, Randy Thompson wrote:
>> During the N1W operation over the past month, we could call CQ on CW 
>> and not get much action.  When we spotted ourselves the crowd 
>> immediately showed up.  The obvious conclusion is that most people 
>> are not watching RBN.  Could be a variety of reasons for this.
>>
>> Contesters are more aware of RBN and are willing to set their filters 
>> and software to accommodate.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+k5zd=outlook.com at contesting.com> 
>> On Behalf Of john at kk9a.com
>> Sent: Friday, February 2, 2024 9:46 PM
>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self spot in ARRL DX
>>
>> Is that true Randy, most casual DXers are not seeing skimmer spots?  
>> W3LPL automatically posts some of less common DX skimmer spots on the 
>> cluster but
>> the rest of the skimmer spots go unnoticed?   If that is correct, 
>> then more
>> stations should be self-spotting on RTTY and CW when allowed.  I have 
>> never self-spotted on RTTY or CW.
>>
>> The spotting network has existed since I believe the 80's and prior 
>> to that rarer DX stations were announced on 2m repeaters so tuning 
>> for DX stations has not been necessary for a long time. Of course it 
>> is much easier now to click and work, maybe so easy that some 
>> stations don't feel the need to regularly identify.  Without spotting 
>> we would all probably be making a lot less QSOs so the cluster is 
>> adding to everyone's fun, regardless of category.  Fortunately you 
>> can still operate unassisted (un-unlimited) in most major contests 
>> and have the thrill of finding that new multiplier or band opening 
>> however operating assisted (unlimited) can also be fun.
>>
>> John KK9A
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Randy Thompson k5zd wrote:
>>
>> The flaw in this argument is that many (most?) hams don't subscribe 
>> to RBN spots.  Self spotting on CW actually helps reach another layer 
>> or two of casual ops and DXers in a contest.  So arguing that using 
>> it on phone is just an analog for RBN is not quite true.
>>
>> Self spotting is another form of calling CQ using the Internet 
>> instead of radio.
>>
>> It does seem the hobby has evolved to the point where making a 
>> contact by any means is more fun/important than using tuning skills.  
>> Disappointing, but it is what it is. On we go into the future.
>>
>> Randy K5ZD
>>
>>
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