[CQ-Contest] Fewer than 3% of contesters self-spotted in ARRL DX CW 2024

Jamie WW3S ww3s at zoominternet.net
Mon Feb 19 19:47:10 EST 2024


I will echo that, as soon as I started running, I could see I was 
spotted by RBN in the INFO window of N1MM......and got some 
callers....BUT.....when I got a manual spot on the old school network, 
it was almost instant pileup....


------ Original Message ------
>From "Saulius Zalnerauskas" <ly5w.sam at gmail.com>
To "Joe" <nss at mwt.net>
Cc "Tim Shoppa" <tshoppa at gmail.com>; "CQ-Contest Reflector" 
<cq-contest at contesting.com>
Date 2/19/2024 3:45:47 PM
Subject Re: [CQ-Contest] Fewer than 3% of contesters self-spotted in 
ARRL DX CW 2024

>Joe (WB9SBD) I thought same as you, but I tried to do selfspot and found
>how much it helps.
>Not very much old fashioned dudies using RBN telnet spots. They just
>looking to DX summit  :)
>Really!
>Sam LY5W
>
>2024-02-19, pr 22:38, Joe <nss at mwt.net> rašė:
>
>>  You should do this test in a Phone contest. I bet the results would be
>>  very different.
>>
>>  In a CW test I do not see any need to self spot at all.
>>
>>  I mean each CQ most likely will be caught by the RBN, and spot you.
>>  And your self spots will be blocked, ignored, whatever ya call it.
>>
>>  Only if you stop CQing and time it just right should a self spot make it
>>  through.
>>
>>  Joe WB9SBD
>>
>>  On 2/19/2024 10:02 AM, Tim Shoppa wrote:
>>  > I gathered manual (non-reversebeacon) spots from 9 Telnet cluster nodes
>>  > around the world over the 48-hour ARRL DX CW 2024 contest, deduped them,
>>  > and counted self-spots to see how widely self-spotting has been adopted,
>>  14
>>  > months after the ARRL began allowing self-spotting by all entrants in
>>  ARRL
>>  > contests.
>>  >
>>  > (Note that almost all other major HF contest sponsors do not allow
>>  > self-spotting and strictly forbid it!)
>>  >
>>  > I also included as self-spots, the case where the spotting station(s)
>>  used
>>  > a different call than the spotted call. This was not at all rare; many
>>  > contesters used a special call for the contest but were, for example,
>>  > logged into the cluster with their regular call. Other DXpedition teams
>>  > seem to have specifically logged in to clusters and spotted using
>>  multiple
>>  > members home calls - a wise choice for when the target audience may have
>>  > excessively strict geographic filters on what spots they receive.
>>  >
>>  > Only 134 stations self-spotted in this contest, if I ignore stations that
>>  > self-spotted themselves less than 10 times. There will be more than 5000
>>  > logs submitted for ARRL DX CW this year, so this is fewer than 3% of all
>>  > entrants who have adopted self-spotting. I'm honestly surprised the
>>  uptake
>>  > has been so low. In fact, the number of posts to cq-contest on the
>>  subject
>>  > of self-spotting in the past 14 months far exceeds the number of
>>  > self-spotters.
>>  >
>>  > Top 10 self-spotters, and the calls they self-spotted under, are listed
>>  > below. The self-spot counts below are after some aggressive deduping -
>>  for
>>  > example if a station posted themselves on multiple frequencies in the
>>  same
>>  > minute I only counted it as a single self-spot. You can find a complete
>>  > list of all 134 stations, and the raw telnet cluster data, at
>>  > https://radiosport.world/2024arrlcw.html
>>  >
>>  > The Top 10:
>>  >
>>  > #self-
>>  > spots   call    spotted using calls
>>  > -----   ------  -------------------
>>  > 632     CR6K    CR6K CT1ILT
>>  > 449     V3T     V31TP
>>  > 427     S53M    S53M
>>  > 341     W4NF    W4NF
>>  > 340     AA3B    AA3B
>>  > 306     W3LPL   W3LPL
>>  > 267     MW4R    MW4R
>>  > 261     K3LR    K3LR
>>  > 244     PJ2T    K8ND PJ2T W0CG W4EE
>>  > 238     OM2VL   OM2VL
>>  >
>>  > Tim N3QE
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