[CQ-Contest] Cursing on 80m
Mike Fatchett W0MU
w0mu at w0mu.com
Fri Aug 15 21:06:46 EDT 2025
What does this have to do with contesting?
On 8/15/2025 11:19 AM, Charles Cassidy wrote:
> Good afternoon,
>
> How can we clean up all the cursing on 80m.
> I am starting to hear more cursing on 40m.
> I am afraid this problem with bad language is going to make it harder to
> get new people into amateur radio. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Chuck, W2CSI
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 12:14 PM <cq-contest-request at contesting.com> wrote:
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>> 1. Re: Ham Radio in the Future (Doug Grant)
>> 2. Re: Ham Radio in the Future (Bruce Horn)
>> 3. Re: Ham Radio in the Future (Victor A)
>> 4. Kansas City Keyer (Rene K5JX)
>> 5. Re: Ham Radio in the Future (RT Clay)
>> 6. Re: Ham Radio in the Future (john at kk9a.com)
>> 7. WRTC 2026 reflector (Lee Volante)
>> 8. Re: Ham Radio in the Future (Stan Zawrotny)
>> 9. Re: Ham Radio in the Future (Jim Brown)
>> 10. Re: Ham Radio in the Future (Tim Shoppa)
>> 11. Re: Ham Radio in the Future (Steve IK4WMH)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2025 17:33:22 +0000
>> From: Doug Grant <dougk1dg at gmail.com>
>> To: CQ Contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ham Radio in the Future
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>> This discussion about the future reminded me of a piece I wrote back in
>> 1993
>> <
>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/az2n7qtgr1ll21dcg9rxy/Reflections-on-the-2005-CQWWW-Contest.pdf?rlkey=9n02x4b4b8v8235hc2fkjfz0u&st=6fbusa61&dl=0
>> .
>>
>> I thought that contests conducted by radio transmission would have gone
>> extinct by 2005, but here we are in 2025, still dancing with the
>> ionosphere.
>>
>> Anyway, while we are thinking about the future, maybe this will be
>> entertaining.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Doug K1DG
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2025 08:54:18 -0500 (CDT)
>> From: Bruce Horn <bhorn at hornucopia.com>
>> To: cq-contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ham Radio in the Future
>> Message-ID:
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>> For CWACs, you want to be able to leverage the log adjudication process of
>> the primary contest sponsor. Otherwise, there won't be consistency across
>> the CWACs based on a contest as to what was considered to be a valid QSO.
>> The main contest sponsor would need to be willing to share a dataset of
>> valid QSOs that could be then rescored. Currently, the shared public logs
>> contain all QSOs, whether they were determined to be valid or not.
>>
>> 73 de Bruce, WA7BNM (bhorn at hornucopia.com)
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joe" <nss at mwt.net>
>> To: "cq-contest" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2025 7:21:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ham Radio in the Future
>>
>> But then think of like Plaque sponsors.
>>
>> A club sponsors an overlay. And anyone that is chasing or entering in
>> that overlay sends their log to the sponsoring of the overlay group.
>>
>> This way you have the overlay and no extra work for the main contest
>> organizers.
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>>
>> On 8/13/2025 2:52 PM, Ward Silver wrote:
>>> CWACs (Contests Within A Contest) could be more popular if there were
>>> better ways of reporting the results. We have some overlays - that's a
>>> step in the right direction. Adding more work for the sponsors is
>> probably
>>> a non-starter at this point, though.
>>> 73, Ward N0AX
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 11:07?AM <cq-contest-request at contesting.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2025 11:52:12 +0000
>>>> From: Randy Thompson <k5zd at outlook.com>
>>>> To: Mike Fatchett W0MU <w0mu at w0mu.com>
>>>> Cc: "cq-contest at contesting.com" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ham Radio in the Future
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <
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>>>>
>>>> The things you are proposing could easily be layered over an existing
>>>> contest. Have at it and let?s see how it works.
>>>>
>>>> Randy K5ZD
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 13, 2025, at 3:20?AM, Mike Fatchett W0MU <w0mu at w0mu.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?Event...Like the 1st one to work W1AAA gets bonus points......The 1st
>>>> to 50 contacts gets..... the 1st to 50 mults..... bonus for low power.
>>>> Just a few off the top of my head. Team play where the team that does X
>>>> 1st or has the cleanest log gets more points. The options are endless.
>>>>> This will not be a game for the old guard or a contest for the old
>>>> guard. People in general dislike change from the norm, old people are
>> even
>>>> worse. It will take a while and some probably will need to pass on
>> before
>>>> major changes will happen.
>>>>> W0MU
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2025 11:08:15 -0400
>> From: Victor A <va2wdq at gmail.com>
>> To: Ward Silver <hwardsil at gmail.com>
>> Cc: CQ-Contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ham Radio in the Future
>> Message-ID:
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>> *Hi Ward,*
>>
>> Great overview of some existing apps! Since you mentioned the future, let?s
>> start by looking at what we already have in place.
>>
>> *1. Node-RED Dashboard Integration / COSB Contest data API.*
>> As you mentioned, Ward, the Node-RED dashboard is a great tool. At COSB (
>> https://contestonlinescore.com/), we collaborated with Kyle AA0Z and
>> Connor
>> KD9LSV, providing contest data via a special API we developed for the
>> Node-RED Contest Dashboard. Unfortunately, I haven?t heard any updates from
>> them since 2023?hopefully, all is well on their end.
>>
>> The best outcome from that collaboration is that we began offering online
>> scoring data for third-party use. This is exactly what Gerry, W1VE,
>> referred to?massive, real-time analysis of incoming contest data, ready to
>> be put to work. If you?re interested, just contact us.
>>
>> *2. ?Contest Within a Contest? Concept*
>> This idea is also ready to go. We?ve had preliminary discussions with some
>> of the CQWW team about running the Real-Time Contest (RTC) service in
>> parallel with CQ WW, using different time categories to make participation
>> more affordable for part-time operators.
>>
>> Since the RTC service at HAMSCORE (https://hamscore.com/) collects all
>> participants? logs, this would be a true adjudicated contest?and we?re even
>> considering real trophies (sponsors welcome!). Naturally, log-check data
>> would only be revealed after the official CQWW log submission deadline.
>>
>> You can get involved right now! Our first RTC parallel test will take place
>> during the CWOps Open this September.
>>
>> *3. The Future is Here: Real-Time Contesting*
>> With RTC, full contest results are available within minutes after the event
>> ends. If you want to see the ?future? of contesting?it?s already here.
>>
>> Join our weekly RTC mini-contests: CWT, K1USN, ICWC-MST, and Weekly RTTY.
>> It?s the real taste of real fun! )) You can find more details here:
>>
>> https://blog.contestonlinescore.com/real-time-contesting-rtc-is-our-new-project/
>>
>> If you?re interested in new contesting technology and want to help with
>> testing and development, join our discussion group:
>> https://groups.io/g/RTC-HAMSCORE
>>
>> 73,
>> Victor, VA2WA
>> https://contestonlinescore.com Team
>> RTC Group / HAMSCORE.com
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2025 12:51:47 -0500
>> From: Rene K5JX <k5jx at earthlink.net>
>> To: CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Kansas City Keyer
>> Message-ID: <8dcf8280-bd4e-4672-89b3-0d6c0732a165 at earthlink.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>
>> I received a .pdf copy of the manual last night. *Many thanks to Ed AJ6V!*
>>
>> 73.
>> Rene K5JX
>>
>> On 08/13/2025 11:33 PM GMT Rene K5JX<k5jx at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Greetings!
>>
>> I realize this may be a shot in the dark, but I'll ask anyway. Some
>> years ago, I "inherited" a Lance Johnson Engineering Kansas City Keyer,
>> without the paddle pushbuttons or the manual, from my friend Ken K5TSQ
>> (SK).
>>
>> I've searched high and low on the web but have had no luck finding a
>> copy of the manual. Would anyone happen to have a .pdf copy of it you
>> might be able to email to me?
>>
>> Thanks very much.
>>
>> Vy 73.
>> Rene K5JX
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2025 17:57:28 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: RT Clay <rt_clay at bellsouth.net>
>> To: CQ Contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ham Radio in the Future
>> Message-ID: <1954856853.5564102.1755194248778 at mail.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> Actually, there are not as many "radio" contests left these days compared
>> to 1993, they ARE going extinct. That is because many no longer have a
>> non-assisted category. Sure, you can operate using just radio and no
>> internet, but only at a serious disadvantage.
>> Tor N4OGW
>> On Thursday, August 14, 2025 at 12:33:55 PM CDT, Doug Grant <
>> dougk1dg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This discussion about the future reminded me of a piece I wrote back in
>> 1993
>> <
>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/az2n7qtgr1ll21dcg9rxy/Reflections-on-the-2005-CQWWW-Contest.pdf?rlkey=9n02x4b4b8v8235hc2fkjfz0u&st=6fbusa61&dl=0
>> .
>>
>> I thought that contests conducted by radio transmission would have gone
>> extinct by 2005, but here we are in 2025, still dancing with the
>> ionosphere.
>>
>> Anyway, while we are thinking about the future, maybe this will be
>> entertaining.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Doug K1DG
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2025 14:15:12 -0400
>> From: <john at kk9a.com>
>> To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ham Radio in the Future
>> Message-ID: <000901dc0d47$60f2b470$22d81d50$@kk9a.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Contest activity does not appear to be declining!
>> https://cqww.com/stats.htm
>>
>> John KK9A
>>
>>
>> Doug Grant K1DG wrote:
>>
>> This discussion about the future reminded me of a piece I wrote back in
>> 1993
>> <
>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/az2n7qtgr1ll21dcg9rxy/Reflections-on-the-200
>> 5-CQWWW-Contest.pdf?rlkey=9n02x4b4b8v8235hc2fkjfz0u&st=6fbusa61&dl=0
>> <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/az2n7qtgr1ll21dcg9rxy/Reflections-on-the-2005-CQWWW-Contest.pdf?rlkey=9n02x4b4b8v8235hc2fkjfz0u&st=6fbusa61&dl=0>
>> .
>>
>> I thought that contests conducted by radio transmission would have gone
>> extinct by 2005, but here we are in 2025, still dancing with the
>> ionosphere.
>>
>> Anyway, while we are thinking about the future, maybe this will be
>> entertaining.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Doug K1DG
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2025 20:36:19 +0100
>> From: Lee Volante <g0mtn1 at gmail.com>
>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 2026 reflector
>> Message-ID:
>> <CAA-DrXRM+5Pc9ZwTdSQKxgJNsMneS+vH=
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As we've only 11 months until WRTC 2026 next July in the UK, here's a
>> reminder for anyone that might be interested in following the news and
>> progress on how to join the public discussion email reflector.
>>
>> Please visit https://groups.io/g/wrtc2026-discuss to subscribe to
>> individual emails, a digest, or instead choose to browse messages online as
>> you wish.
>>
>> It's a busy time for the project overall with the qualification programme
>> just completed, the Team Leader and Team Mate selection about to get
>> underway, and from there Referee selection and much more.
>>
>> Thanks to everyone for their support and interest so far which is
>> much appreciated by the organising team.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Lee G0MTN
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2025 16:42:22 -0400
>> From: Stan Zawrotny <k4sbz.stan at gmail.com>
>> To: Gerry Hull <gerry at remote.radio>
>> Cc: David Gilbert <ab7echo at gmail.com>, cq-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ham Radio in the Future
>> Message-ID:
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>> We need to consider the contest and also possible contests within the
>> contest as different levels of focus. I found the video about what AA0Z has
>> done with NodeRed very interesting. Ward Silver mentioned it.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OwMKKwDk_w
>>
>>
>>
>> __________
>> Stan, K4SBZ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 8:04?PM Gerry Hull <gerry at remote.radio> wrote:
>>
>>> I've had an oar in the pond in all this for quite a period of time.
>>>
>>> I was the inventor of the first online live scoreboard, getscores.org.
>>> That was way back in
>>> 2006, 19 years ago. See
>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20071111194139/http://www.getscores.org/ for
>>> some nostalgia.
>>> It seems it has caught on quite well, thanks to VA2WA and the guys at
>>> contestonlinescore.com.
>>>
>>> For the longest time, it was sheer blasphamy to share your score with
>>> others. For some, it still is.
>>> However, for the majority of us, it has enhanced our hobby tremendously
>> --
>>> at least for us that enjoy competitive contesting.
>>>
>>> Bruce, WA7BNM's 3830scores.com site has become the defacto results
>>> reporting system. Why? Because it is very old news
>>> getting results months (or even in some cases, weeks) after the event.
>>> Anyone who creates a bogus 3830 score is not a valid competitor --
>>> and at the competition levels where the score really matters -- it might
>>> change a few percent from claimed after adjudication.
>>>
>>> So -- we talk about live scoring. There has been a team working on a
>>> version of live scoring for some time -- they have had slight
>>> progress, but none in any way I would term significant. Why is this?
>>> It's not that they haven't put in significant effort, that is for sure.
>>> I believe the focus is on the wrong problem: don't try and solve realtime
>>> score adjudication -- enhance real-time reporting with
>>> live updates and eye-candy UI that will bring in new audiences. Score
>>> adjudication is perfect where it's been IMHO -- the people
>>> who do it for the big contests have been doing it for years, do it well,
>>> and don't want big changes. I get that. For smaller contests,
>>> 3830 is the norm.
>>>
>>> We can overlay lots of stuff on existing contests. We can create
>> contests
>>> within contests. Who had the best opening band rate to
>>> EU from NA? Who is doing better hour-by-hour in CQWW vs their score last
>>> year. Right now, all the live stuff is simply presented
>>> as tabular data. That is so 20th century. If you look at the many
>>> graphical sites supporting POTA, you'll see a lot of eye candy that
>>> is exciting. Right now, POTA is the hottest thing since sliced bread!
>>>
>>> So -- what do we do? I backed away from helping the current live
>> scoring
>>> project, because I did not buy into it's vision.
>>> Today, all the data generated by a CQWW, for example, is really TRIVIAL
>> to
>>> the data processing capabilites of the internet and
>>> cloud platforms. However, the problem needs to envisioned with a
>> solution
>>> that fits a different purpose.
>>>
>>> Ward, W0AX presented a vision of this a decade (or what it two) ago.
>>> Nothing really became of it.
>>> Perhaps we partner with some smart Internet contesters who have a flare
>> for
>>> real time graphics and come up with some
>>> compelling content. This should not ruffle the feathers of the the most
>>> strident radio luddite. The internet has been providing
>>> data about radio (specifically ham radio) since it's inception.
>>>
>>> Yep, everyone can shoot holes at this idea. That's what people do.
>>> However, as many have said, we are losing more and more
>>> contesters every day. At some point, there will be many fewer to work.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Gerry W1VE VE1RM ZF2VE 7Q2T
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 1:41?AM David Gilbert <ab7echo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A friend of mine (Bob, K7ZB) just sent me a link to a recent video
>>>> interview of Tom, W2SC (aka 8P5A) done by W1DED. In addition to
>>>> descriptions of his station and approach to contesting, Tom speculates
>>>> on where ham radio and contesting in particular might go in the future.
>>>> He pointed out that whatever happens will most likely be determined by
>> a
>>>> younger generation that isn't bound by what ham radio is to those of us
>>>> who have been at it for a while.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck-RMIyjSfI
>>>>
>>>> His view of the future is very interesting, and I agree that if ham
>>>> radio survives to any significant extent it will have to change ... and
>>>> it will likely be changed by a younger generation that comes up with a
>>>> way to adapt ham radio to something that is more interesting to them.
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I've always thought that contesting should figure out how
>> to
>>>> become more like an online video game:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Integrated computer graphics that display participants on a playing
>>>> field ... Earth or maybe even some simulated world. You could zoom in
>>>> or zoom out, but the part of the world available to be seen on your
>>>> screen could be determined by the real time propagation at that moment.
>>>> To make a contact you'd have to zoom in far enough to see the station
>>>> you're trying to contact, and the display would show their current
>>>> frequency. Real time propagation could be derived from actual contacts
>>>> being made if everyone's computer was connected to a common server ...
>>>> just like is done with video games. And before anyone says that real
>>>> time internet connectivity is an issue, keep in mind that it isn't at
>>>> all problem for the demographic we'd be trying to reach.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Multiplayer .... where every participant shows up on the screen at
>>>> their actual (or simulated) QTH.
>>>>
>>>> 3. ACTUAL COMPETITION! Instead of just trying to make the most
>>>> contacts and finding out at the end how you did, make each contact some
>>>> sort of competition that gets displayed on the screen ... and have some
>>>> way of preventing others from making a contact. How that happens would
>>>> depend upon the context of the particular game, just like there are
>>>> different video games. But the idea would be to contest each contact
>> in
>>>> some manner that requires either an offensive action or a defensive
>> one.
>>>> 4. "Contacts" (whatever the game required for a point) would still
>>>> purely come via RF ... station to station. The video display and
>>>> central server would only provide the environment for making the
>>>> contacts, albeit a hopefully more elaborate and richer environment than
>>>> whatever we currently picture in our minds while making contacts now.
>>>>
>>>> Some people might say that this is actually no different than a video
>>>> game and that video games have the advantage of a level playing field
>>>> since most computers don't hinder your play. And that's precisely why
>> I
>>>> think a ham radio version might be more interesting. Propagation,
>>>> antennas, choice of times and bands would all make the game more
>> complex
>>>> than the typical online video game. The play style would be enriched by
>>>> the variables of ham radio and the technical side of the hobby would be
>>>> retained.
>>>>
>>>> The biggest problem I see with something like this is getting the
>>>> programming done. Successful video games can take years and lots of
>>>> money to develop, although there are games like Valheim that didn't ...
>>>> at least not by comparison. However, I strongly suspect that it won't
>>>> be too long before AI could do something like this, or at least most of
>>>> it. We wouldn't need the complexity of a top tier video game, and
>>>> graphics engines are becoming increasingly accessible for simple
>>>> environments. Station wise, I don't think it would be any different
>>>> than it is now to use a logger for rig control and score tracking ...
>>>> just different software.
>>>>
>>>> I realize that the actual game mechanics are missing here. That's
>>>> because I'm not smart enough to come up with the specifics. But I am
>>>> convinced that something like this could be done ... it's really just a
>>>> simple visual interface with an RF connection for the points instead of
>>>> data packets. The number of made contacts would be MUCH fewer than it
>>>> is now for a typical contest, but each contact could potentially
>> require
>>>> more thought and focus. Think in terms of catching fish instead of
>>>> hammering out CQ's.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2025 13:49:35 -0700
>> From: Jim Brown <k9yc at audiosystemsgroup.com>
>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ham Radio in the Future
>> Message-ID:
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>> On 8/13/2025 12:47 PM, Gerry Hull wrote:
>>> Who had the best opening band rate to
>>> EU from NA?
>> The structure of contest rules and scoring that makes this the defining
>> property of so many contests is what's wrong with contesting! Until this
>> changes, DRASTICALLY, all of these otherwise very interesting
>> suggestions are just pissing in the wind.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2025 18:20:43 -0400
>> From: Tim Shoppa <tshoppa at gmail.com>
>> To: CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest at contesting.com>,
>> ab7echo at gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ham Radio in the Future
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> AB7E writes:
>>> Instead of tuning around looking for stations, imagine a visual
>>> interface representing a colorful, fairly detailed, immersive world that
>>> we had to physically explore to find other operators.
>> IMHO a SDR waterfall already is a colorful detailed immersive world showing
>> me signals that might be workable. Or even better an empty spot that'll be
>> my new run freq.
>>
>> Combine the spectrum with spots, RBN, or other info if going assisted to
>> get even more labeled visual and colorful interface. Or go it alone and use
>> your eyes and ears to determine where to tune and listen.
>>
>> I can look at the past 20 seconds or so and see that some stations are in
>> CQ loops with no callers and see other stations have crazy huge pileups. So
>> I can see not just the guy I want to work but if I'll see my competition
>> too.
>>
>> Given the turnaround time of modern contesting (just a few seconds) it's
>> already very engaging and interactive to contest this way.
>>
>> I think modern RTTY contesting (with several weapons-grade decoders with
>> advanced tuning and waterfall displays of their own) is similarly engaging.
>>
>> Tim N3QE
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:22:25 +0200
>> From: Steve IK4WMH <ik4wmh at virgilio.it>
>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ham Radio in the Future
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>> I've read about gaming, computer graphics, dashboards, immersive
>> worlds, real time contests and other fancy things.
>>
>> They appear to me far too FT8ish.
>>
>> I hope no contest committee will make them compulsory.
>>
>>
>> Just my 3 cents (used to be 2 cents, blame the tariffs).
>>
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>> 73 es gl
>>
>> Steve IK4WMH
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