[CQ-Contest] Fwd: Ethical question -- NIL?

Mike Fatchett W0MU w0mu at w0mu.com
Fri Dec 12 12:17:58 EST 2025




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Subject: 	Re: [CQ-Contest] Ethical question -- NIL?
Date: 	Fri, 12 Dec 2025 09:51:11 -0700
From: 	Mike Fatchett W0MU <w0mu at w0mu.com>
To: 	Art Boyars <artboyars at gmail.com>



Log and submit what you copied.  After contest massaging by looking up 
stuff on QRZ or other places has no place in contesting during the 
contest unless assisted under some contests.  Once the contest is over 
the logs should lock after an hour and that is that.  It gives the op 
time to fix obvious errors that occurred during the contest that would 
not be practical to fix during a run.

If K3ES called in after K3EH that was an obvious mistake.  You simply 
log K3ES and move on.    You never logged the 9 call.  If he logged you 
that is his problem.

W0MU


On 12/12/2025 8:21 AM, Art Boyars wrote:
> ARRL 160M 'Test. I call CQ and get multiple callers (Saturday night fresh
> meat). I dig out "K3", and I send "K3". A K3 and some 9-land call answer.
>
> I dig out "K3E", and I send "K3E?". A K3 and a 9-lander answer.
>
> I dig out "K3EH" (I think; close enough -- if I'm wrong, he can fix it),
> and I send him a report.
>
> The calling station sends me "5NN IL" and does not correct the K3EH call
> sign.
> Illinois? No problem; lots of people in non-natural QTHs these days. I
> log it, and do a quick "ready for the next caller", hoping the 9-land
> caller is still there.
>
> Instead, K3ES calls in. "5NN WPA".
>
> Hmmm. So, who gave me 5NN IL??
> QRZ.com shows K3EH in Florida. K3EH has no scores posted on 
> 3830scores.com.
>
> I think it was that over-persistent 9-land call. If I leave it in my log,
> I'll get dinged for a busted callsign. So I change it to X-QSO.
>
> But wait a minute. I'll lose the QSO -- and it's his fault -- but the
> 9-lander call might still get credit for it, which I believe he does
> not deserve. (Some say the log checking software might not credit him.)
>
> I still have time to delete the QSO from my log and to resubmit.
>
> What do you think I should do? I do not promise to accept your advice.
>
> 73, Art K3KU
>
>
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