[CQ-Contest] repeating callsign - what the heck?

Mike VE9AA ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca
Tue Feb 18 13:45:05 EST 2025


p.s.-I thought I'd do some detective work and so went over to the 
QSO-ORDER web search I and searched for your callsign K4SBZ.  I finally 
found 1 CW QSO.
Do a search and listen to the K4SBZ/S53M recording from CQWW CW 7MHz, in 
2024.

This is pretty much exactly what I am talking about.

https://qsorder.hamradiomap.com/



------ Original Message ------From: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.caTo: 
k4sbz.stan at gmail.com; cq-contest at contesting.comSent: Tuesday, February 
18th 2025, 12:56 PMSubject: Re: Re: [CQ-Contest] repeating callsign - 
what the heck?
I disagree, respectfully with your analysis Stan.
If I am running and this happens, you have a chance to correct me (2 
scenarios follow)

Scenario #1

me: TEST VE9AA
you: K4SBZ
me: K4SBZ 5NN <exchange>
you: 5NN <exchange>
me: TU VE9AA
In scenario one, I haven't busted your call, so why would you want to 
send it to me twice? You've heard me send it back to you correctly.

Scenario #2
me: TEST VE9AA
you: K4SBZ
me: K4HBZ 5NN <exchange>
you: K4SBZ (or if you're adamant, MAYBE send it twice in this 
scenario-could be QRM, QRN etc)
me: K4SBZ 5NN <exchange>
you: 5NN <exchange>
me: TU VE9AA
In scenario #2, I busted your call but you withheld the exchange until I 
corrected it. You heard your callsign come back to you.
This is the most efficient way to ensure "acks" from both ends.

You can do you, but time how long it takes you to send your callsign. 
Now multiply that by 3000 times in the ARRL DX CW. How much time have 
you used up sending it twice ?

Oh, and to answer your question, as the OP, the obvious answer is I 
would like to hear your callsign only sent one time. If I bust it, give 
me a chance to correct it. That's how it works.

73 Mike VE9AA "NB"


------ Original Message ------From: k4sbz.stan at gmail.comTo: 
ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca Cc: cq-contest at contesting.comSent: Tuesday, February 
18th 2025, 11:20 AMSubject: Re: [CQ-Contest] repeating callsign - what 
the heck?It’s been my experience that a high percentage of ops get my 
callsign wrong. This results in NILs in the final scoring. I now send it 
twice and this has improved the accuracy of my contacts. Which is worse 
for your log — a slightly longer call or a NIL in your log? Stan, K4SBZ 
"Real radio bounces off the sky." > On Feb 18, 2025, at 9:41 AM, Mike 
Smith VE9AA wrote: > > I've done the ARRL DX CW many times. (and do 
most of the majors; > CQWW,WPX,WAE,RDX many many times) > > Is some 
institution in EU (or some popular EU logging software) instructing > 
EU's to call you with their callsign twice? > (or if I am running, 
they'll again put their callsign in their message when > they come back 
to me yet one more time? > > I am hesitant to even complain (make note 
of is more like it) as they made > up 86.6% of my log this weekend (TU 
EU!!) but this weekend more than ever > before in my decades on the 
bands did I have (what seemed like) every 8th or > 9th caller doing this 
at times(maybe more at times). I ran anywhere from > 34wpm to 40wpm 
(mostly 38wpm) this weekend and especially on the high bands > I was 
coming back to the loudest guy just as soon as they had sent their > 
callsign ONCE. Occasionally when my rig was just going into TX, I'd 
catch > part of a CW character telling me they had sent their call 
again. No > response (I doubled with them) > > Thank goodness for the 
"=" key in N1MMLogger+ (repeats last message sent) I > about wore it 
out. > > Thoughts? > > VE9AA “NB” > > Mike - Keswick Ridge, NB, Canada > 
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