[CQ-Contest] Many US stns out of band (John Dorr)

[Jack Brindle]

Well, yes, at least in the US. If the FCC wishes to fine you, it is $11,000 per day as long as the offense goes on. I don’t know about you, but I would far prefer to spend $11K on antennas than giving it to the FCC.

73,
Jack, W6FB


> On Oct 28, 2025, at 3:12 PM, Kent Olsen <kilo6dko at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Canadian *law*? Is transmitting out of band a criminal offence?
> 
> Kent
> N6WT
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 12:52 PM Kelly Taylor via CQ-Contest <
> cq-contest at contesting.com> wrote:
> 
>> I suggest that as long as YOU aren’t doing anything wrong, work ‘em and
>> move on.
>> 
>> The lawbreaker is the American op outside his band. That should be a
>> problem for the FCC to deal with, not foreigners. Canadian hams are not
>> breaking Canadian law when working OOB Americans.
>> 
>> If the problem is such that the contest organizer sees fit to nullify both
>> sides of the QSO, so be it, but at least you’re not getting dinged for NIL
>> penalties.
>> 
>> ARRL SS rules are silent, other than to say operators must stick within
>> the confines of their countries’ laws.
>> 
>> 73, kelly, ve4xt
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2025, at 12:29 PM, Dave G. ve3kg at myrac.ca <
>> goodwindave.73 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> John K1AR said:
>>> 
>>> “Yes, we only remove the offender's QSO, NOT both. We don't expect ops to
>>> adjudicate OOB QSOs in real-time on the receiving side.”
>>> 
>>> Great!   That seems like good judgement by the adjudicators.  But they
>> are
>>> missing another aspect:
>>> 
>>> When I get OOB callers from the US, I often tell them “you’re outside the
>>> US phone band.”   The usual response is silence, but more than a few
>> delete
>>> the QSO from their logs.  In adjudication, I get assessed a penalty for
>>> “NOT IN LOG” QSOs, even though I worked the station.
>>> 
>>> So, should I work the OOB Yanks, and say nothing?   Should I refuse to
>> log
>>> the OOB Yanks?   Their repeated calls get annoying, sometimes quite
>>> desperate and often a source of QRM.
>>> 
>>> This is tangly stuff.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Dave VE3KG
>>> (At VE3VN this past weekend)
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