[CQ-Contest] CQ-Contest Digest, Vol 277, Issue 7

Wed Jan 7 14:33:33 EST 2026

Nobody will ever change Paul's stance on this subject that he expresses 
at every possible opportunity.  Lots of folks have tried for years to do so.

Dave   AB7E

On 1/7/2026 10:30 AM, Ron Koenig wrote:
> " semi-professional hybrid-communications"
> Really ? Starlink is just a wireless mic / keyer, ALL RF is on the Island.
> It's no different than if the operators were on the island and used
> Bluetooth mics.
> RF to RF.. NO Contacts over Internet, only control. The same as every
> remote station, of which there are hundreds.
> This is not new, many dxpeditions have been down with this tech, it has
> opened doors to activate places that otherwise never would be again.
>
> Ron, WV4P
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2026 at 11:22 AM <cq-contest-request at contesting.com> wrote:
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>>     1. Fwd: Expeditions remote (Martin Sellschopp)
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>>     4. Re: Fwd: Expeditions remote (Paul O'Kane)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 14:29:38 +0100
>> From: Martin Sellschopp <m.sellschopp at gmail.com>
>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: Expeditions remote
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>> Von: Martin Sellschopp <m.sellschopp at gmail.com>
>> Date: Mi., 31. Dez. 2025 um 18:23 Uhr
>> Subject: Expeditions remote
>> To: <cq-contest-request at contesting.com>
>>
>>
>> I just read  a note about the KP 5 Expedition. Will that be the future,
>> that a team dumps a container on a rare DXCC location and then operates it
>> remote from home ? That is certainly a technical challenge but is that
>> still in the spirit of a DXCC ?
>>
>> The same for Contest activities. Will we have remote stations set up at
>> favorable locations and a team of operators spread out worldwide operating
>> it ?
>>
>> Best 73's and good dx in 2026
>> Martin
>> DK3UW
>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2026 15:00:00 +0100
>> From: SQ6MS Maciek <sq6ms at o2.pl>
>> To: cq contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Odp:  Fwd: Expeditions remote
>> Message-ID: <23e2d0f5b8484bb39e14e86174ac1db4 at grupawp.pl>
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>> It is not the future. It is reality.?  Vy73`s de Maciek F4VSQ/SQ6MS   Dnia
>> 07 stycznia 2026 14:39 Martin Sellschopp <m.sellschopp at gmail.com>
>> napisa?(a):  ---------- Forwarded message ---------  Von: Martin Sellschopp
>> <m.sellschopp at gmail.com>  Date: Mi., 31. Dez. 2025 um 18:23 Uhr
>> Subject: Expeditions remote  To: <cq-contest-request at contesting.com>
>>    I just read ?a note about the KP 5 Expedition. Will that be the future,
>> that a team dumps a container on a rare DXCC location and then operates it
>> remote from home ? That is certainly a technical challenge but is that
>> still in the spirit of a DXCC ?   The same for Contest activities. Will we
>> have remote stations set up at  favorable locations and a team of operators
>> spread out worldwide operating  it ?   Best 73's and good dx in 2026
>> Martin  DK3UW  _______________________________________________  CQ-Contest
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 09:13:38 -0500
>> From: Ria Jairam <rjairam at gmail.com>
>> To: Martin Sellschopp <m.sellschopp at gmail.com>
>> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: Expeditions remote
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>> RIBs are the future. This isn?t the era of Don Miller or Romeo where they
>> didn?t have radios on the entity. This has been done a few times and now we
>> have the tech to do so including remote, starlink and solid state amps.
>>
>> This doesn?t mean traditional tent and generator expeditions aren?t going
>> to happen anymore. But a RIB can mean the difference between an activation
>> and no activation.
>>
>> This activation is within the rules - 500 meter circle, all on the same
>> entity and land based. As a bonus it minimizes human contact for sensitive
>> ecological areas.
>>
>> Ria
>> N2RJ
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2026 at 8:59?AM Martin Sellschopp <m.sellschopp at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> Von: Martin Sellschopp <m.sellschopp at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Mi., 31. Dez. 2025 um 18:23 Uhr
>>> Subject: Expeditions remote
>>> To: <cq-contest-request at contesting.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> I just read  a note about the KP 5 Expedition. Will that be the future,
>>> that a team dumps a container on a rare DXCC location and then operates
>> it
>>> remote from home ? That is certainly a technical challenge but is that
>>> still in the spirit of a DXCC ?
>>>
>>> The same for Contest activities. Will we have remote stations set up at
>>> favorable locations and a team of operators spread out worldwide
>> operating
>>> it ?
>>>
>>> Best 73's and good dx in 2026
>>> Martin
>>> DK3UW
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 14:29:20 +0000
>> From: Paul O'Kane <pokane at ei5di.com>
>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: Expeditions remote
>> Message-ID: <d2fd6e12-2a3c-465b-a336-507efa455cff at ei5di.com>
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>> On 07/01/2026 13:29, Martin Sellschopp wrote:
>>> I just read  a note about the KP 5 Expedition. Will that be the future,
>>> that a team dumps a container on a rare DXCC location and then operates
>> it
>>> remote from home ? That is certainly a technical challenge but is that
>>> still in the spirit of a DXCC ?
>> Of course it's in the spirit of DXCC, isn't it simply
>> station-to-station?communications over RF?
>>
>> After all, we all know and accept that telephone contacts take place
>> between telephone instruments.? Who needs people?
>>
>> On the other hand, not a single QSO with KP5 will be possible without
>> 100% dependence on Starlink for each and every contact. Since amateur
>> radio QSOs, by definition (my definition), are person-to-person,
>> ham-band-RF-all-the-way contacts with no dependence on commercial
>> communications utilities, it follows that all contacts with KP5 will be
>> something other than ham radio? - I'd suggest "semi-professional
>> hybrid-communications" contacts.
>>
>> Apparently, DXCC and contest sponsors are happy to
>> accept?semi-professional hybrid-communications contacts as being
>> equivalent, in all respects, to amateur radio QSOs.? They should think
>> again.
>>
>> 73,
>> Paul EI5DI
>>
>> ps - The race is on!? Who will be the first to qualify for the DXCC 10k
>> Challenge?
>> http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-06/msg00261.html
>>
>>
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