[ct-user] ADIF CONTEST_ID field - what to do?

R Johnson k1vu at tmlp.com
Sat Dec 10 13:16:19 EST 2005

This sounds FB to me.

I would prefer to not to have any <CONTEST_ID> embedded in record.
So your example #1 would fit my needs, just use C2A in the usual manner.
Like "C2A 10M05.BIN" or "C2A RACWIN05.BIN" and just get a plain ADIF file.

I'm using LOGic 7 which allows the user to enter a <CONTEST_ID> ONLY IF
it's not included in the ADIF Record when you do an ADIF Import.
LOGic and is set for an 8 character <CONTEST_ID> and anything more is
truncated if it is included in the ADIF Record.

Next, using your example #2 of <CONTEST_ID:30>2005 ARRL 160 METER CONTEST CW,
it bloat the ADIF file by 40 Kb per 1000 QSO's. In the case of LOGic 7,
it would end up being "2005 ARR" after being truncated 

Also, as far as I know the ADIF Standard does not define any "Standard
CONTEST_ID's. Therefor what you pick for your standard, will be non-standard
for other users. I don't think we want to get involved in forming another ADIF

Example #3 would be useable, but is an extra step for me, but maybe not for
others depending on what they logging program requires and the ID schemes.

Lastly, LoTW does not require or use the <CONTEST_ID> field.

C2A always worked great as is. I'm all for you proposal, so I'll be using
the Example #1 command line.

TNX es 73
Bob, K1VU 

At 10:26 12/10/2005, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
>In previous versions of C2A (CT to ADIF), I put the CONTEST_ID field 
>in the ADIF file header.  This field should have been part of each 
>QSO record.  So I changed it.  And started getting some complaints.
>I assume that the importing logging program would take this field and 
>append it to one of the comment/notes fields.  This is dependent on 
>your particular logging program.
>Here is an example from the CT output:
>Note that it doesn't include the year or mode of the contest (if 
>that's significant).  So this information may be too general.
>I have an idea to fix this (somewhat) by adding an "-id" argument to 
>the command line:
>1.  If "-id" is not specified, then no CONTEST_ID will be written to 
>the ADIF file
>2.  If "-id" is specified by itself, then you will get a default ID 
>based on the contest name, year and mode, i.e.
>3.  If "-id <name>" is specified, whatever you enter as "name" will 
>be written to the contest ID field:
>    <CONTEST_ID:13>2005 AR160 CW
>     Note that the name following "-id" must be in "quotes".
>Is this too much or too little?  Would anyone use a custom CONTEST_ID 
>if it was available to them?  Would you rather have the .BIN file 
>name as the contest ID?  Would we be better off using the ADIF 
>COMMENT or NOTES field instead?
>73 - Jim AD1C
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