[Fourlanders] Contest Weekend

Wed Jun 23 14:02:35 PDT 2010

I thought that we had run at least 6 meters on a second generator but it has
been a long time and my memory may be wrong.  I still believe that a second
generator would be a good idea.  As you pointed out we could use that for
cooking, outside lighting, etc. and leave all of the precious kws for making
RF.

73
Jim, W4KXY

It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart
you are.  If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.
Richard P. Feynman

-----Original Message-----
From: fourlanders-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:fourlanders-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Brian McCarthy
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:52 PM
To: 4Landers
Subject: Re: [Fourlanders] Contest Weekend

Curtail power substantially? I seem to recall running the bottom four at
full power from that generator. It is rated at 8.5KW with 10KW peaks and is
two cylinders for much smoother operation. We ran a separate generator for
cooking and misc' usage.

During this past contest on 144-432 we all reduced power substantially as
that generator was being used for both those stations and cooking. The crock
pots were consuming about 1-1.5KW continuous. If that was a true 6KW
generator, that left only 4.5-5KW for radio, and we all saw how poorly that
played with two or three stations transmitting.

The "Big Hos" generator is a good backup plan that would easily allow CQ'ing
at full power on at least the bottom three. We can throttle 222 back or run
intermittent on 222 as the QSO rate is much lower if it does not handle the
bottom four simultaneously.

Brian
NX9O

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Jim Worsham <wa4kxy at bellsouth.net> wrote:

> No problem, the Corrective Action Report is more Ron's thing than mine.  I
> am glad that we are getting a plan in place.  The only thing I would point
> out is that Scott's generator is obviously not going to be a direct one to
> one replacement for the diesel.  We will have to have at least a second
> generator or curtail TX power substantially.
>
> 73
> Jim, W4KXY
>
>
> It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how
smart
> you are.  If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.
> Richard P. Feynman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fourlanders-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:fourlanders-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Brian McCarthy
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:38 AM
> To: 4Landers
> Subject: Re: [Fourlanders] Contest Weekend
>
> I don't want to see any Corrective Action Report paperwork! I get enough
of
> that at work.
>
> In regards to repairing my diesel generator. I have found much more
> documentation on the web about this particular engine and generator
> combination than I was able to find in the past. It seems that the Kia
2.4L
> was used from approximately 1997-2001. During that time, there were three
> different alternators used. The Kubota look-alike disposable alternator
> being the last. In all cases, the upper bracket has been the same part
> number. I will be looking into the cost of the other two alternator
> versions. I am also thinking that I would be prudent to have a spare
> alternator and bracket in the generator kit.
>
> In doing this research, I also found that the battery charger that had
been
> electrically taking the place of the alternator has been running at 100%
of
> rating. I really need to reinstate alternator running and charging of the
> 12VDC system in the generator. Again, good reason to have spares for the
> alternator in the generator kit.
>
> Some of you may also remember that there was a full electronic control
> panel
> with engine metering and automatic shutdown on failure. Given the way the
> generator failed, if it had happened during the night, I might have had a
> completely seized engine rather than just a coolant mess. There are direct
> replacement controllers showing up now on eBay and similar at prices in
the
> range of mere mortals. In September, there will be some form of auto
> shutdown on failure, or I will not bring that generator.
>
> While I was packing up the large power lead into the generator, I realized
> that I still have the adapter pigtail with the 60A 3-pin socket to an
> L14-30
> plug. This would allow simply unplugging the large cable at the diesel
> generator, adding the pigtail and plugging into an L14-30 socket equipped
> generator. Scott, NN4W, now owns my old gas generator. If we had brought
> that generator  with us, it would have been simple to swap generators and
> then provision some gasoline to keep running. We could have continued 6M
on
> full power with no rewiring. The gas generator would also have been down
> the
> hill and camp would have continued to be pretty quiet.
>
> Let's fill in the action plan, but I don't want to see any paperwork.
>
> Cheers,
> Brian
> NX9O
>
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Bill Pence <pence.bill at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > well, it is what it is.
> > however, not much longer and the generator WOULD be on fire.
> > you were proactive in identifying the issue and raising the flag.
> > then we formed a cross-functional team to analyze and resolve with
> > BOTH short term and long term corrective actions. plus we enacted rick
> > mitigation strategies.
> > maybe the reason the generator went out later was a lack of powerpoint
> > slides.
> > (all I need now is a buzz word bingo card.)
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Jim Worsham <wa4kxy at bellsouth.net>
> > wrote:
> > > I guess I am going to be hearing about the "generators on fire" thing
> for
> > a
> > > long time.
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Jim, W4KXY
> > >
> > >
> > > It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how
> > smart
> > > you are.  If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.
> > > Richard P. Feynman
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: fourlanders-bounces at contesting.com
> > > [mailto:fourlanders-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Sherman Banks
> > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:53 PM
> > > To: 4Landers
> > > Subject: [Fourlanders] Contest Weekend
> > >
> > > I put some pictures and a writeup on my Web site from the past
weekend.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Here is the writeup:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
http://shermanbanks.net/Mary_and_Sherman_Web_Site/Blog/Entries/2010/6/14_Jun
> > > e_VHF_QSO_Party.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > And here are some pictures
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
http://shermanbanks.net/Mary_and_Sherman_Web_Site/Photos/Pages/06.2010_June_
> > > VHF_QSO_Party.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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