I also use Gmail via Firefox almost exclusively. Yes, Gmail has been reported by a number of people to have trouble with "blank emails". It seems to be related to a MIME header format issue.

If the group consensus is to move away from the contesting.com (free) service, someone else can manage it. I want nothing to do with another Yahoo list. I do not like them. I do not like Yahoo.

Just curious - Has anyone looked at the list archives to compare what they get with what the list stored? (The link is at the bottom of each list email.) The Christmas Celebration email from Jim came through to my email as blank, but it shows content in the archives. Therefore it is my problem and resides with Gmail and Firefox. I prefer them and continue to use them. I look look at the archive or use the Gmail "Show original" function to catch what I missed.

Brian
NX9O


On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Paul Yeager <paul@mtnlist.com> wrote:
I am usuing Yahoo's webmail interface exclusively.

Some messages I receive via the reflector are blank, and some are not.

This is addressed to the reflector and Ron, Bill, Scott, and Dusty.  It will be interesting to see if anyone gets this message both directly and via the relfector, and if there are differences betwene the two.
 
73 de W4SKI

From: Ron Rogers <ww8rr@charter.net>
To: 'Bill Pence' <pence.bill@gmail.com>
Cc: 'Scott Spencer' <scott@nn4w.com>; 'Paul Yeager' <paul@mtnlist.com>; 'Dusty Findley' <dusty.nr4n@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:22 AM
Subject: RE: [Fourlanders] Missing text

I found out directly from Johnny (K4SQC) that he is using G-Mail (and Firefox) and seems like he’s having the most and consistent issues. It seems like nothing he sends is getting through this reflector now….HTML or Plain Text.
 
But I never have any issues with his e-mails delivered through the Moon-Net or QCWA reflectors……I get them all…..even when they are HTML.
 
Ron
WW8RR
From: Bill Pence [mailto:pence.bill@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:08 AM
To: Ron Rogers
Cc: Scott Spencer; Paul Yeager; Dusty Findley
Subject: Re: [Fourlanders] Missing text
 
It is not logical to me as I do not see a full pattern, but yes, what I am saying is that I get blank emails from some people, when passed via the reflector.
I do not have this problem on 'normal' emails, only reflector, and even then only on some emails via the reflector, and this seems to be a new experience.
 
I use gmail only these days..
 
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Ron Rogers <ww8rr@charter.net> wrote:
Well, as you saw from Brian, he thinks it may be the HTML e-mails being
generated......however...I don't want to blow his mind quite yet and tell
him that ALL of my e-mails generated are in HTML and they seem to come
through fine !

I think it COULD have something to do with HTML messages and how the
reflector deals with it, but ..I also think it has something to do with
E-Mail service providers (in my case, Charter) and how THEY might re-format
certain things in the HTML e-mail, or add some ID character string, before
relaying to the reflector.

Or ....how the service provider treats HTML messages from this reflector
before delivering to you, the customer.

But again, I generate ALL of my e-mails in HTML and they seem to get through
the reflector and I use Charter. So, that's why I'm beginning to think it
may have something to do with various intermediate Email services providers
and how they interface to this particular reflector.

On another note, I use MS Outlook here. To take Outlook out of the equation
I logged in directly to the Charter site to manage my e-mail. What I found
was the following >

All the e-mails out there posted from the reflector are identical to the
ones in my Outlook Inbox...those with content via Outlook have it on the
Charter.net site, too.

Those few that are empty also have missing content in the Charter.net
mailbox.



Ron
WW8RR
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Rogers [mailto:ww8rr@charter.net]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 10:41 PM
To: 'Scott Spencer'
Cc: 'Bill Pence'; 'Paul Yeager'; 'Dusty Findley'
Subject: RE: [Fourlanders] old callsign request

So what you are saying is that you, Tom, and Dusty get these empty e-mails
being passed from the Fourlanders reflector ?

Or you are seeing the issue with regular person to persons e-mails, too ?

Ron
WW8RR
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Spencer [mailto:scott@nn4w.com]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 2:02 PM
To: Ron Rogers
Cc: Bill Pence; Paul Yeager; Dusty Findley
Subject: Re: [Fourlanders] old callsign request

This seems to be a recent and common problem.  Dusty, Tom Dooley and myself
are all having it too.  It's weird that it just started a couple of weeks
ago.

I haven't found a common thread yet.  We're using different e-mail
applications, different e-mail service providers, etc.

Another weird thing about it is that the text comes through on my phone, but
not on my computer.

Scott
NN4W


On Dec 9, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Ron Rogers wrote:

> No...I am seeing all e-mail contents from everyone here......
>
> Ron
> WW8RR
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fourlanders [mailto:fourlanders-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Bill Pence
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 1:55 PM
> To: Paul Yeager
> Cc: Fourlanders
> Subject: Re: [Fourlanders] old callsign request
>
> is anyone else getting empty emails from paul, dean, kos, etc via
> contesting.com?
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Paul Yeager <paul@mtnlist.com> wrote:
>
>>
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