Here is a real AH to look out for. I think I'll send him an email and ask him to put me on the list for calling him an ASS HOLE but I'll go out of my way to NOT work him. I'd always wondered who owned the bands and now we know. Bob
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Subject: Fwd: K6EID FT8 issues Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 10:19:16 -0500 From: Buck Cheves <kc4gck@windstream.net> To: Bob Lear <w4zst@windstream.net>
Bob --
Looks like I made a 'naughty' list. Have you ever heard of this guy -- Phil, K6EID?
Buck
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Below is the web site that is an offense http://lota.online/
LOTA
LOTA
LIDS ON THE AIR
Founded in 2017, to remind potential LOTA members that crappy operating will reward you with a dishonorary membership in this not-elite group. The character of the club members is best expressed in its motto:
"Crappy operators have a real bad case of the stupids" - Anonymous (2013)
LID is a very old amateur radio designation for a crappy operator that allegedly stood for LICENSE IN DOUBT.
This website is established to try to improve the operating skills and etiquette of amateur radio operators by shaming the incompetents.
In recent years too many irresponsible and marginally qualified people have been able to obtain US amateur radio licenses for a number of factors including:
1. Dumbing down of licensing requirements
2. The current trend of the "gimme generation" where others' desires are ignored if they conflict with their personal wants
LOTA NON-HONOREES AIM TO….
- Foster and practice a low standard of operating ability and behaviour on the amateur bands.
- Be inconsiderate to other amateurs at all times.
- Be a real demonstrator of the selfish ME generation - it does not matter what other operators desire, they must abandon their preferences and honor only MINE
BECOMING A NON-HONOREE
If you have a genuine love of irritating other amateur operators, and enjoy socialising with others of like interest then LOTA is just right for you. It takes some work to join - it’s not simply a matter of filling in a form and sending off a check. Membership is free!
First, someone must nominate you - based on their experience of you having demonstrated a real lack of understanding of amateur radio principles and traditions along with your sponsor’s belief that you will live up to the aims of the organization that are listed above. You cannot request enrollment, it is only earned by your demonstrated lack of operating etiquette.
Once you have been nominated, you are automatically added to the organization membership. You cannot refuse the nomination as you have earned it as acknowledged by experienced and traditional amateur radio operators who observed and commented on your poor behavior
DISHONOR ROLL OF LIDS ON THE AIR
N4HYK
W8ATE
K9TS
KG0MI
WA8TJC
AB8J
K1GUY
...
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AC4VM
KC3IRG
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A major symptom of this is the failure of common sense operating etiquette. As an old time operator (licensed 60 years with the Amateur Extra Class license earned at the FCC office before the VECs were authorized), I like to work DX and usually call CQDX. Way too many times, a US domestic station will respond. True that an inattentive operator might miss the DX part of the call. In those cases I usually send QRZ DX NO USA or QSY UR NOT DX. For most, but unfortunately not all, this solves the problem.
- An example of this lack of common sense is from 17 meters FT8 which qualifies this LID for membership:
151800 Tx 1832 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
151815 0 0.5 1832 ~ K6EID N4HYK EL87
151831 Tx 1832 ~ QSY UR NO DX
151845 2 1.0 1832 ~ K6EID N4HYK EL87
151900 Tx 1832 ~ QSY UR NO DX
151915 1 1.0 1832 ~ K6EID N4HYK EL87
151930 Tx 1832 ~ R U STUPID?
151945 -15 0.9 1833 ~ K6EID N4HYK EL87
152000 Tx 1832 ~ QRZ DX NO USA
152030 Tx 1832 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73Right after this I got this email from that ham:
- The caller claims to be a licensee for over fifty years!
- Therefore I hereby nominate said Dock as the first "non-honoree" in this un-esteemed group of LOTA.
- The next one, another example of crappy operating again on 17 meters is W8ATE (don't worry he's got a vanity call from an N8 so not really an OT):
162545 Tx 1395 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
162530 -20 0.8 1143 ~ K6EID F6DHI JN23
162545 Tx 1143 ~ F6DHI K6EID -20
162600 6 0.6 1143 ~ K6EID W8ATE EN81
162615 Tx 1143 ~ F6DHI K6EID -20
162630 14 0.6 1143 ~ K6EID W8ATE EN81
162645 Tx 1143 ~ F6DHI K6EID -20
162700 14 0.6 1143 ~ K6EID W8ATE EN81
162715 Tx 1143 ~ F6DHI K6EID -20
162730 -18 0.3 1143 ~ K6EID F6DHI R-08
162745 Tx 1143 ~ F6DHI K6EID RRR
162800 -17 0.3 1143 ~ K6EID F6DHI 73
- And another example of crappy operating again on 17 meters is K9TS
152430 Tx 2137 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
152445 -17 0.6 2138 ~ K6EID K9TS EM49
152512 Tx 2137 ~ QRZ DX NO USA
152530 Tx 2137 ~ QRZ DX NO USA
152545 -15 0.6 2138 ~ K6EID K9TS EM49
152600 Tx 2137 ~ QRZ DX NO USA
152615 -15 0.6 2138 ~ K6EID K9TS EM49
152631 Tx 2137 ~ R U STUPID?
152700 Tx 2137 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
152715 -9 0.7 2138 ~ ASS HAT
- And lo and behold our first international non-honoree, from of all places Italy. This fellow earned a double poop awards for persistently QRMing two QSOs
200145 Tx 1121 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
200200 -22 1.1 1121 ~ K6EID DK2LO JO43
200215 Tx 1121 ~ DK2LO K6EID -22
200230 -3 1.0 1122 ~ K6EID IZ0FUW JN63
200245 Tx 1121 ~ DK2LO K6EID -22
200315 Tx 1121 ~ DK2LO K6EID -22
200330 -10 1.0 1123 ~ K6EID IZ0FUW JN63
200345 Tx 1121 ~ DK2LO K6EID -22
200400 -9 1.0 1122 ~ K6EID IZ0FUW JN63
200415 Tx 1121 ~ DK2LO K6EID -22
200445 Tx 1121 ~ DK2LO K6EID -22
200515 Tx 1121 ~ DK2LO K6EID -22
200530 -24 0.5 1121 ~ K6EID DK2LO R-11
200545 Tx 1121 ~ DK2LO K6EID 73
200615 Tx 1121 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
200600 -24 0.5 1121 ~ K6EID DK2LO 73
200645 Tx 1121 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
201315 Tx 593 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
201330 -17 1.1 594 ~ K6EID SV6EBQ KM09
201345 Tx 594 ~ SV6EBQ K6EID -17
201400 -4 0.6 595 ~ K6EID EA3EW JN01
201415 Tx 594 ~ SV6EBQ K6EID -17
201430 -11 1.0 594 ~ K6EID IZ0FUW JN63
201445 Tx 594 ~ SV6EBQ K6EID -17
201500 -9 1.0 594 ~ K6EID IZ0FUW JN63
201515 Tx 594 ~ SV6EBQ K6EID -17
201530 -11 1.0 594 ~ K6EID IZ0FUW JN63
201545 Tx 594 ~ SV6EBQ K6EID -17
201530 -18 0.6 594 ~ K6EID SV6EBQ R-14
201545 Tx 594 ~ SV6EBQ K6EID RRR
201615 Tx 594 ~ SV6EBQ K6EID RRR
201630 -9 1.2 594 ~ K6EID IZ0FUW JN63
201645 Tx 594 ~ SV6EBQ K6EID 73
- And another 17M, this one deserves a poop and a half for his persistence and verifying that he was stupid
144230 Tx 1533 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
144215 2 0.4 1504 ~ K6EID KG0MI EM46
144300 Tx 1504 ~ QRZ DX NO USA
144315 11 0.4 1504 ~ K6EID KG0MI EM46
144330 Tx 1504 ~ QRZ DX NO USA
144345 6 0.4 1504 ~ K6EID KG0MI EM46
144400 Tx 1504 ~ R U STUPID?
144430 Tx 1504 ~ R U STUPID?
144445 2 0.5 1503 ~ K6EID KG0MI EM46
144500 Tx 1503 ~ R U STUPID?
144515 1 0.4 1504 ~ K6EID KG0MI EM46
144530 Tx 1504 ~ R U STUPID?
- And now a three poop one, KK6NON. This guy has to be either blind or as stupid as a box of rocks!
171006_163500 Transmitting 21.074 MHz FT8: CQ DX K6EID EM73
163515 -5 -0.2 1048 ~ K6EID KK6NON DM13
171006_163530 Transmitting 21.074 MHz FT8: QRZ DX NO USA
163545 -7 -0.2 1048 ~ K6EID KK6NON DM13
171006_163600 Transmitting 21.074 MHz FT8: QRZ DX NO USA
163615 -3 -0.2 1048 ~ K6EID KK6NON DM13
171006_163630 Transmitting 21.074 MHz FT8: R U STUPID?
163645 -7 -0.2 1047 ~ K6EID KK6NON DM13
171006_163700 Transmitting 21.074 MHz FT8: R U STUPID?
163715 -4 -0.2 1047 ~ K6EID KK6NON DM13
171006_163730 Transmitting 21.074 MHz FT8: CQ DX K6EID EM73
171006_163800 Transmitting 21.074 MHz FT8: CQ DX K6EID EM73
163815 -17 -0.2 1047 ~ K6EID KK6NON DM13
163845 -7 -0.2 1047 ~ K6EID KK6NON DM13
- Wow, thought there must be a full moon but there wasn't so it must not be lunatics but only just a few dumb as boxes of rocks on the last few days. To start off, another new one, a triple pooper again, N4LDF (at least he confirmed he was stupid with RRR). As such I think I found a picture of him:
141300 Tx 654 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
141315 -3 1.1 655 ~ K6EID N4LDF EL95
141338 Tx 655 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
141345 -1 0.5 655 ~ K6EID N4LDF EL95
141437 Tx 655 ~ QRZ DX NO USA
141445 -1 1.0 655 ~ K6EID N4LDF R-12
141500 Tx 655 ~ QRZ DX NO USA
141515 -7 0.5 655 ~ K6EID N4LDF R-12
141530 Tx 655 ~ QRZ DX NO USA
141545 -3 0.5 655 ~ K6EID N4LDF RRR
141600 Tx 655 ~ R U STUPID?
141615 -3 0.5 655 ~ K6EID N4LDF RRR
141630 Tx 655 ~ R U STUPID?
141645 3 0.5 655 ~ K6EID N4LDF RRR
141700 Tx 655 ~ R U STUPID?
141715 5 1.0 655 ~ K6EID N4LDF RRR
141732 Tx 655 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
141800 Tx 655 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
141815 4 0.5 656 ~ K6EID N4LDF RRR
141837 Tx 656 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
141845 -1 1.0 656 ~ K6EID N4LDF RRR
- The same day, another one, this time WB2REM , an old timer who should certainly know proper etiquette:
181215 Tx 1498 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
181230 -8 0.3 1498 ~ K6EID WB2REM EL97
181251 Tx 1498 ~ QRZ DX NO USA
181300 -10 0.3 1498 ~ K6EID WB2REM EL97
181315 Tx 1498 ~ QRZ DX NO USA
181330 -8 0.3 1498 ~ K6EID WB2REM EL97
181345 Tx 1498 ~ QRZ DX NO USA
181400 -8 0.3 1498 ~ K6EID WB2REM EL97
181415 Tx 1498 ~ R U STUPID?
181430 -9 0.3 1499 ~ K6EID WB2REM EL97
181445 Tx 1499 ~ R U STUPID?
- And another ... KC3HMA:
182615 Tx 1500 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
182600 1 0.5 1500 ~ K6EID KC3HMA FM28
182619 Tx 1500 ~ QRZ DX NO USA
182630 2 0.5 1500 ~ K6EID KC3HMA FM28
182645 Tx 1500 ~ QRZ DX NO USA
182700 4 0.5 1500 ~ K6EID KC3HMA FM28
182715 Tx 1500 ~ QRZ DX NO USA
182745 Tx 1500 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
182815 Tx 1500 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
182830 4 0.5 1500 ~ K6EID KC3HMA FM28
182847 Tx 1500 ~ QRZ DX NO USA
182900 -5 0.5 1500 ~ K6EID KC3HMA FM28
182916 Tx 1500 ~ R U STUPID?
- That was it for that day, so next day, another real old timer (55 years as a ham) makes the triple scooper, er pooper, rating, WA6WGS:
155830 Tx 1132 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
155845 -24 0.3 1132 ~ K6EID WA6WGS DM03
155905 Tx 1132 ~ QRZ DX NO USA
155915 6 0.3 1132 ~ K6EID WA6WGS DM03
155930 Tx 1132 ~ QRZ DX NO USA
155945 5 0.3 1132 ~ K6EID WA6WGS DM03
160000 Tx 1132 ~ QRZ DX NO USA
160015 5 0.3 1132 ~ K6EID WA6WGS DM03
160030 Tx 1132 ~ R U STUPID?
160045 2 0.3 1131 ~ K6EID WA6WGS DM03
160100 Tx 1132 ~ R U STUPID?
160115 -3 0.3 1131 ~ K6EID WA6WGS DM03
160130 Tx 1132 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
160145 -11 0.3 1131 ~ K6EID WA6WGS DM03
160215 -15 0.3 1131 ~ K6EID WA6WGS DM03
160237 Tx 1132 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
160245 -18 0.3 1131 ~ K6EID WA6WGS DM03
- Well a new day and another dishonoree, KE3GP:
145415 Tx 1782 ~ CQ DX K6EID EM73
145430 3 -0.0 1783 ~ K6EID KE3GP FM19
145451 Tx 1783 ~ QRZ DX NO USA
145500 3 0.0 1782 ~ K6EID KE3GP FM19
145515 Tx 1782 ~ QRZ DX NO USA
145530 6 0.1 1782 ~ K6EID KE3GP FM19
145546 Tx 1782 ~ QSY USA NOTDX
145600 3 -0.1 1782 ~ K6EID KE3GP FM19
145615 Tx 1782 ~ R U STUPID?
- We now have another, this time the first four pooper dishonoree. a real low life. WA8TJC: