From WadeGlasck@aol.com Tue Nov 5 03:27:30 2002 From: WadeGlasck@aol.com (WadeGlasck@aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:27:30 EST Subject: [Hooper] Hooper DNA results Message-ID: <198.1013a7c8.2af894a2@aol.com> Hello all, Results from the Hooper DNA project are starting to come in. Go to the website http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hooperconnections/ to see the results that have been received so far. The participants are arranged by ancestor. Some of the lines only have one person testing for that ancestor. The project will be an ongoing effort and there is time for any and all others to join in the project. Participation is open to any Hooper male. Take care. Wade Glascock --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From AB4RU@aol.com Tue Nov 5 18:01:41 2002 From: AB4RU@aol.com (AB4RU@aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:01:41 EST Subject: [Hooper] Hooper DNA Results Coming in Message-ID: <83.232aa0ad.2af96185@aol.com> Hi All, Some of the results have started to come in and is being posted on a web page Clay Hooper has designed, Thanks Clay, it looks great. Some of you will be interested to know that 3 decendants from the Absalom Hooper that married Elizabeth Rymer line matched my DNA perfectly. I can't wait to see who else is going to match me. Ron --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From WadeGlasck@aol.com Mon Nov 11 03:37:42 2002 From: WadeGlasck@aol.com (WadeGlasck@aol.com) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:37:42 EST Subject: [Hooper] Hooper DNA projects Message-ID: Hello Hoopers! The Hooper male line DNA project is still going strong. Several results are back in and we have added more participants. All Hooper men are invited to join in this historic undertaking. With the Hooper Y-DNA Project going so well we've decided to branch out into testing that involves the female line. This is known as mitochondrial DNA or mtDNA testing. This type of testing looks at the direct female only line of your family. We hope to be able to connect more Hooper lines by using this technology. If you haven't been to the Hooper DNA project webpage, it's time to take a look. The page gets better and better each day. Go to http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hooperconnections/ Wade --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From AB4RU@aol.com Sat Nov 16 15:52:46 2002 From: AB4RU@aol.com (AB4RU@aol.com) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 10:52:46 EST Subject: [Hooper] Ledbetter/Hooper Research Message-ID: <10e.1a411e17.2b07c3ce@aol.com> Hello Hooper List, There is been a recent renewed interest in finding the mother and father of the Margaret Ledbetter, born 1794, that married John Hooper, also the Sarah Millissa Van Dora Ledbetter, born 1811, South Carolina, that married Isaac Hooper. It is assumed that Isaac married Sarah approximately 1828 in Haywood County, NC. Margaret married John Hooper @1813, location unknown, but maybe SC. >From some documentation that was passed down, Margaret Ledbetter's father was a Revolutionary Solider. Since I am a member of the SAR, I have access to the records for which the Ledbetter sir names were claimed for membership. This is what I found: Drury Ledbetter, served Virginia Henry Ledbetter, served North Carolina Isaac Ledbetter, served 4th Reg North Carolina, Continental There maybe other Ledbetter compatriots that is included on the DAR records or may not be listed at all. IF ANYONE HAS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE LEDBETTERS PLEASE RESPOND TO THE LIST SINCE SEVERAL MEMBERS ARE INTERESTED IN THE FINDINGS. BTW.. I am trying to reach Mary Hooper Crocker and the phone number I have does not work. Can someone forward me her e-mail and/or phone number. Thanks Ron Hooper, ab4ru@aol.com --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From diane@nrgrecording.com Mon Nov 18 15:27:51 2002 From: diane@nrgrecording.com (Deanna Baumgardner) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 07:27:51 -0800 Subject: [Hooper] George Washington Hooper Message-ID: <4D2B011E-FB0A-11D6-9428-000393C2730A@nrgrecording.com> > Want to contact direct male descendant of George Washington Hooper b. > March 14, 1808 Franklin County, GA. d. August 17, 1861 in Shelby > County, Texas . Had sons, James Smith, Samuel Robert, George > Washington, Jr., William Monroe, Christopher Columbus,and John Thomas. > Will appreciate hearing from you. Deanna Hooper Baumgardner > From diane@nrgrecording.com Tue Nov 19 04:31:52 2002 From: diane@nrgrecording.com (Deanna Baumgardner) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 20:31:52 -0800 Subject: [Hooper] Benjamin Franklin Hooper descendants Message-ID: Need information on John Hooper born. abt. 1843 in Shelby County, Texas son of Benjamin Franklin Hooper and LauryAnn Bounds Hooper. Any information appreciated. Deanna Hooper Baumgardner From WadeGlasck@aol.com Tue Nov 19 16:58:10 2002 From: WadeGlasck@aol.com (WadeGlasck@aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:58:10 EST Subject: [Hooper] More Hooper news Message-ID: <19e.c2c92f3.2b0bc7a2@aol.com> Greetings Hoopers, More results for the Hooper DNA project have come in. The project gets more interesting by the day. Mr. Clay Hooper is doing a fantastic job as webmaster on the project page. If you haven't stopped by lately then go to : http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hooperconnections/ If you would like to participate in this historic Hooper effort complete instructions can be found on the website or you can e-mail me directly. Have a great day! Wade Glascock --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From clayhooper@directvinternet.com Fri Nov 22 08:37:25 2002 From: clayhooper@directvinternet.com (Hooper, Clay) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 00:37:25 -0800 Subject: [Hooper] DNA Project Message-ID: <3DDDECC5.30202@directvinternet.com> Hello Everyone! I will probably only get one or two hits out of this, but just in case....I've posted a picture of myself on my DNA Participant Page on the Hooper DNA Table on the Hooper Y-DNA Project. Please don't throw any tomatoes at your computer screen! If any other Participants would like to add their picture also to their Participant Page, just email your picture to me and I'll add it on. The picture must come to me in .gif or .jpg format to be posted. We might as well get some of the mystery out of our researchings and get to know each other. Of course this is NOT a requirement, just a "if you want to" type thing. If you know of anyone that would like to participate in the DNA Projects, please encourage them. The cost is not particularly cheap, but it's also not that much if you consider all the hundreds of dollars we spend researching the paper trails. We're having exciting connections through this project that are making the genetic connections to various families that we've just been circumstantially or hopefully connecting before! SO, the more participants and the more various the lines represented the better! We currently have a little over 20 participants........now let me goad you into action.....the Graves Families have 135 participants......we can't let them out do us can we?! :-) All the information you need to begin participation in one of the Hooper DNA Projects is listed on the website. Be sure to visit the Hooper Connections website often as new information is added regularly. Also, I want everyone to know that You Too can become a Valued Contributor to the website.....just email your ideas, suggestions, informations to me at and we'll try to get your contributions posted as soon as possible. We're still sorely lacking in Family Trees and Family Pictures, so send yours on in! Also, if you have or know of other websites that are Hooper related that are not already posted on the Links page, send those in too and we'll get them added so it will be easier for you to find them quickly. Hope you're enjoying the website and that it's becoming more and more useful to you in your genealogy and research. Let us hear from you soon! Best Regards to all ~ Clay http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hooperconnections/ From The Duffy's" I have a book Reminiscences of the Civil War by General Gordon inscribed with Confederate sayings by J A Hooper of Austin Texas copyright is 1904 anything that anyone can share with me about J A Hooper would be = appreciated --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From clayhooper@directvinternet.com Mon Nov 25 00:41:36 2002 From: clayhooper@directvinternet.com (Hooper, Clay) Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 16:41:36 -0800 Subject: [Hooper] Thomas & Churchill Message-ID: <3DE171C0.5000309@directvinternet.com> Does anyone know of a male direct line descendant of the brothers Thomas and Churchill Hooper? We need a DNA participant from each of those lines. Any help on contacting a descendant from each of these men would be greatly appreciated. Clay --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From clayhooper@directvinternet.com Tue Nov 26 08:17:10 2002 From: clayhooper@directvinternet.com (Hooper, Clay) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 00:17:10 -0800 Subject: [Hooper] Message from Hooper DNA Project Administrator ~ Wade Glascock Message-ID: <3DE32E06.4000004@directvinternet.com> Hello all Hooper genealogists and researchers ~ I thought this latest note from Wade Glascock, Hooper DNA Projects Administrator, was well worth sharing with you all. Hopefully, you'll see the significants in participating in this historic work and encourage your Hooper males to join in. Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving! Clay PS..........For those of you not living in the U.S., we'd love to have you all participate too! Don't let the oceans stop you from joining in on the fun and history making. Who knows, we may find you are my next of kin! URL to the website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hooperconnections/ ************************************************************************************************ Hello all, I wanted to write a brief note to update all the participants and everyone else who has shown interest in the DNA project. I hope everyone has had the opportunity to look at the website. Clay has done a really outstanding job. He has added links for pictures, family trees and family records. If you have anything relating to the Hooper family, he would like to post them on the site. He will be away this week but will be back hard at work next week. Send any submissions to him at clayhooper@directvinternet.com Thus far the project has been able to confirm a number of suspected relationships and in at least one instance refute a suspected relationship. In looking at the results page of the Y-DNA project a few things are pretty striking. First you'll notice a rather significant block of people who are now known genetic relatives. There is another group of two descendants of Obediah Hooper who are also shown to be related. There are also several people who haven't found their connections yet. The large block was put together by several friends and relatives working to find participants. Those of you without a connection will need to do something similar. Talk to the people you've been in contact with in your genealogy and convince them to be tested. You may be able to find your genetic relatives. I also have a few ideas about where to go on future testing. Just about everyone I've corresponded with has the rumor in their family that they are related to William Hooper, the signer of the Declaration of Independence. This is our chance to find out who his relatives really are. I believe it would be worth our while to seek out descendants of William for testing. Possibly the second most famous American Hooper was Ben W. Hooper, who was a governor of Tennessee. Ben was born illegitimate but was claimed by a Hooper family. It wouldn't hurt to get some genetic confirmation on this. We now have pretty good coverage of the southern U.S. but need to finish up a few lines. We could use participants from the Churchill, Thomas and Absalom families of middle Tennessee. There were also two Thomases in Louisiana in the early 1800's that could be looked at. I've had mail from someone who is helping a Hooper with roots in Mexico on his genealogy. If you could convince your Hooper friend to do the testing you may very well find an American family he fits into. It would also be good to find Hoopers in Europe and Australia. It would be interesting to see how our families match up against some of them. Getting even more specific I'd like to talk a little bit about the results on the big block of DNA matches. There is a mix of 12 and 25 marker tests and most of the results are the same. There are a few differences however. These are my ideas about the possible significance of some of these differences. However, I'm not a real scientist though I do play one on the internet. On Kit 5283, a descendant of James (1745) has a 16 on DYS392 where everyone else has 15. Since another participant (Kit 5140) is also of James's line and doesn't have the value of 16, it would seem that this mutation only effects someone further down Kit 5283's line and is not indicative of James's whole line. On DYS464d, Kits 5140 and 5141 both have 17 with everyone else having 18. This also doesn't seem to indicate a lineal relationship. Kit 5140 is on the same line as 5283, above, and 5283 doesn't show the Dys464d mutation. Also Kit 5141 is from the line of Absalom (1807) and there are two other participants from this line without the mutation. It seems that the mutation to 17 on these lines were separate events and don't represent a discrete line. Okay now on to the mutations that may have some impact. On Kit 5181 a descendant of Andrew (1807) has 16 on DYS437 whereas all others have 15. There is no one else with 25 marker results on Andrew's line so there is no way of knowing if this mutation affects all Andrew descendants or just this one individual's line. On Kit 5506 a descendant of Absalom (1764) has 28 on DYS449 where others all have 29. No other descendants of this Absalom have 25 marker results. This could be interesting if the pending results for the Clemmons descendant where upgraded to the 25 marker test. Absalom and Clemmons were brothers. If the Clemmons descendant also shows a 28 at DYS449 then it would mean that this mutation came from the father of Absalom and Clemmons. This would also mean that James, Jesse, and the father or grandfather of Absalom (1807) and Andrew could not be brothers to Absalom (1764) and Clemmons. This would represent a discrete point where the lines separated. Another striking revelation is the fact that two of the three results for Absalom (1807), Kits 5146 and 5180 are identical at all 25 markers with the results for Jesse (Kits 5159 and 5421). Since there was no known relationship between these two previously it is pretty surprising. Since Jesse was from middle Tennessee, I think it's possible that one of the middle Tennessee Hoopers moved to southeast Tennessee and fathered Absalom and Andrew and maybe some others. It might be something for further research. Well my short note has gotten very long and I'd be surprised if any of you made it this far. I'll sign off now. Take care. Wade --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- From diane@nrgrecording.com Sat Nov 30 12:02:02 2002 From: diane@nrgrecording.com (Deanna Baumgardner) Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 04:02:02 -0800 Subject: [Hooper] Hooper DNA Project Message-ID: <8963754F-045B-11D7-8661-000393C2730A@nrgrecording.com> We need some direct male participants in the Hooper DNA Project from the John Jefferson Hooper line; his sons were Francis Marion, James Monroe, Alonzo Nathaniel, Commodore Perry and William Columbus. It will prove your ancestry to Obediah Hooper, Sr. born abt. 1720. You can get full information on the site below. I will be willing to pay the fee. Deanna Hooper Baumgardner http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hooperconnections/ --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/enriched ---