Lotw is being reviewed for some improvements. There are some new awards about to be released, too. Dave Patton passed on these teasers. No specifics. Lotw was down for repairs on Friday 11 January. Service Pack 3 for XP is still Beta according to MS. Down load at your own risk. What do you bet, XP service pack 3 will be replacing Vista with a new name? Ray ND6S