[Mldxcc] [NCCC] K1N

[Alan Maenchen]

Nothing's guaranteed.

Luck + panadapter beats luck alone.  :-)




On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Chris Tate - N6WM <ctate at ewnetinc.com>
wrote:

> Guys.. the pan adapters help.. but not completely.   In fact on a couple
> of occasions I brought up my flex 6500 pan adapter at home, while listening
> to the split with my K3 at LRG.  I took some videos that will be fun to
> look at during the solar minimum. The tooth?  was almost always like 20
> teeth..  some constantly closed and repeatedly sending 5NN with all the out
> of sync and or just not listening callers with some DQRM for good measure.
> I did note that often times when this happened..  I would disengage.. then
> return and many times the next group was better behaved.
>
> Pan adapters.. + luck.. and maybe a bit of experience combined with
> patience seemed the best medicine.
> ________________________________________
> From: NCCC [nccc-bounces at contesting.com] on behalf of Alan Maenchen [
> ad6e at arrl.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 12:27 PM
> To: gdaught6 at stanford.edu; NCCC; MLDXCC
> Subject: Re: [NCCC] [Mldxcc] K1N
>
> George,
>
> First set your span to something useful. I was using 20kHz with K1N off
> near the left side.
>
> Finding a hole in between the teeth is a good use of the P3. However, it
> works even better if you can spot the guy being worked.  This means
> listening to the target (K1N) and wait for them to call a station. The huge
> pile will reduce (not completely go away), and one "tooth" will pop up. Put
> the 2nd RX (and your SPLIT transmitter) on that guy and see if he's
> answering. I usually can't find that in one or even two attempts. It takes
> time, and the station needs to be relatively strong. Doesn't work when he
> is calling EU and I can't hear any EU... which is most of the time.
>
> Granted, poor operating (ie calling when the target is working someone)
> causes clutter, but you should be able to see someone pop up at the correct
> time.
>
> Hope that helps.
> 73, Alan  AD6E
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:39 AM, <gdaught6 at stanford.edu<mailto:
> gdaught6 at stanford.edu>> wrote:
> Some time ago, AD6E/KH6TU wrote...
>
> < snip >
>
> > I gotta say that without the pan adapter (ie spectrum analyzer), I
> > would never have found where to transmit.
>
> Lots of people report this, but it rarely works for me.  Example:
>
> K1N : (In the clear!) K1N UP
>
> K6GT watches a massive wad of signals covering about 5kHz on the P3.
> Usually it's
> a solid block, but sometimes a comb.  Even using a second receiver, it's
> very difficult
> to find 'where to transmit.'  I usually watch for the comb, and then try
> to wedge my
> signal in between the teeth.
>
> Oh, I got 'em on 40 CW, but it was more like luck than having 'found where
> to
> transmit' by using the P3 and/or second receiver.
>
> Like they say, it's better to be lucky than good.
>
> 73,
>
> George T Daughters, K6GT
> CU in the California QSO Party (CQP)
> October 3-4, 2015
>
>
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