[NCC] The one callsign rule.
Tim Jellison
w3yq at w3yq.com
Mon Dec 6 16:12:49 EST 2021
I have to agree with K8MR on this. In Alaska, Kevin (KL7KY) and I would
do a two man multi-single operation from his place. In WW, we'd start
out as KL7KY and operate the first 24 hours. Then at the mid point,
we'd switch over to my call KL7WV. Doing that made it a lot more fun
since we could work everyone again. Couldn't do it in ARRL, so we'd
just stick with one callsign the whole time. The second day was
laborious and we'd often QRT early. Of course, we could have broken the
rules, changed calls, and then entered as check logs, but we never did.
So what's the harm, really? Changing calls made it more fun for the two
of us and kept us in front of the radio for 48 hours instead of 24-30
hours. We were never out to win anything, just get on, put out the
double mult, and have fun. Plus, everyone else had yet another KL7 they
could work. Cheaters will be cheaters, but preventing them from using
more than one callsign per location isn't going to deter them from their
dastardly deeds.
I'm sure ARRL has that rule in there for some reason, but I've never
understood why.
On 12/6/2021 3:53 PM, Jim K8MR via NCC wrote:
> The point of contests is to make as many QSOs as possible. Not to contact as many transmitters/receivers as possible.
>
> If my station is traveling between counties or grid squares in a state QSO party or VHF contest, is it not a new station?
>
> If people are going to abuse things to work friends with multiple callsigns, they aren't going to submit logs for all those callsigns. Any enforcement would need to be from looking at the logs of the beneficiaries, looking for uniques or calls that show up in fifty PVRC logs and nowhere else.
>
> Limit things with a minimum time off for a callsign before using it again. At least one hour, perhaps four hours. Do allow reuse later in a contest, so one guys beginning callsign can get back on to work late starters later in the contest.
>
> Yes, you might be able to find decent stations and drive between them. I've done that many times. But even if you can, why spend hours on the road, as I did, when I could be getting a few more hours of sleep?
>
> Why must we reduce contests for everybody to becoming a matter of how well you can overcome the boredom of no new people to work? Some people may be into that, but I'd rather be doing a160 hour on Sunday afternoon, as I did from K5KG as K4OJ in SSB SS.
>
>
> 73 - Jim K8MR
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James M. Galm <jim at w8wts.com>
> To: mrrc at groups.io; ncc at contesting.com
> Sent: Mon, Dec 6, 2021 2:26 pm
> Subject: [NCC] The one callsign rule.
>
> Bob and Jim,
>
> The one-callsign rule makes sense to me. The idea behind contests is to contact as many stations as possible. If a station can use more than one callsign in a contest, then others can keep contacting the same station once per callsign. That doesn't fit the spirit or intent of the rules.
>
> Of course, an operator is free to travel to other stations and become a "new one" during the contest. Ops frequently do that. What one cannot do is appear to be a new one (by changing callsign) without actually being a new one.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim, W8WTS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NCC [mailto:ncc-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bob Liddy (K8BL)
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2021 12:25 PM
> To: mrrc at groups.io; ncc at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [NCC] Fwd: ARRL 160 W1NN Single Op LP
>
> Jim,
>
> It seems to me that an easy fix for that Rule would be to make it OK to use a different Callsign from the same station if you END using the previous Callsign. At the most, it could only result in ONE "manufactured"
> QSO.
>
> Of course, there are some people that would try to bend THAT rule by "borrowing" all the Callsigns from their Buddies that weren't really in that Contest. So, the Rule would have to be narrowed down to only using ONE other Callsign from the same station.
>
> Being "fresh meat" is a real thrill and challenge for folks that enjoy dealing with pileups and there should be ways to allow that to be possible.
>
> 73 & MX, Bob K8BL
>
> On Monday, December 6, 2021, 09:32:01 AM EST, Jim K8MR via NCC <ncc at contesting.com> wrote:
>
> Ah, the joys of being fresh meat!
> A shame that the ARRL is still stuck in the 1960's world worrying about "manufactured QSOs", rather than making it easy for all of us to become fresh meat after our use-by date has passed. And thereby giving the serious guys some more new people to work as the contest goes on.
>
> 73 - Jim K8MR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hal Offutt <hal at japancorporateresearch.com>
> To: Mad River Radio Club <mrrc at groups.io>; North Coast Contesters <ncc at contesting.com>
> Sent: Mon, Dec 6, 2021 12:53 am
> Subject: [NCC] Fwd: ARRL 160 W1NN Single Op LP
>
> Lots of big scores from members, especially NO3M & K1LT. You guys are impressive!
>
> 73, Hal W1NN
>
>
> ARRL 160-Meter Contest - 2021
>
> Call: W1NN
> Operator(s): W1NN
> Station: W1NN
>
> Class: Single Op LP
> QTH: OHIO
> Operating Time (hrs): 1:20
> Remote Operation
>
> Summary:
> Total: QSOs = 150 Sections = 48 Countries = 1 Total Score = 14,847
>
> Club: North Coast Contesters
>
> Comments:
>
> My 160 dipole is unavailable due to the malfunction of my remote switch.
> My K3
> loads my 80 meter dipole pretty well but, understandably, it doesn't work very well. Nevertheless, I was able to have a nice 135 hour run on Saturday night.
> Much to my surprise, two West Coast stations called me. I heard 4-5 pretty loud EU stations plus KP4 and KP2, but the only DX that could hear me was C6.
> I was
> afraid of what prolonged operation like this could do to my radio, so I only operated a bit and I won't be operating much in the Stew or the Jan 160 contest.
>
> 73, Hal W1NN remote at tokyo
>
>
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