[Orion] cw qsk etc.
bob finger
finger at goeaston.net
Thu Dec 18 12:29:08 EST 2003
I too defeated the qsk on the Orion because folks were butchering my call
during the ten meter contest. Seems folks had a much harder time copying me
than ever before. Set up here is the Orion and a pair of Ten Tec 425's so
qsk should work if it is going to.
Defeating qsk and using semi-break in seems to have solved whatever problem
I might have had. I set qsk delay at 80% and it drops out nicely between
words if I pause just a bit.
The other interesting episode with my Orion, I have to have both qsk amp
loops either on or off for it to work. With one set on and the other off,
the "on" side does not transmit. Have reported it to dits&bits. .73 bob de
w9ge
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> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:06:56 -0500
> From: Bill Tippett <btippett at alum.mit.edu>
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> Subject: [Orion] CW parameter starting point
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> Hi Charlie,
>
> W0YG wrote:
> >Does anyone have a good starting point to enter the values on the CW
option
> of the main menu. I like QSK but don't know if any delay is necessary.
> Also, what about CW Rise/Fall? Is the factory setting of 5 mS
satisfactory?
> I looked in the manual which gives some general guidelines but just
> wondering if anyone has researched this setting with a scope?
>
> First I'll state that I dislike QSK for many reasons and just
> wish PTT were available on CW. I much prefer PTT to the Semi-Breakin
> which I'm forced to use with Orion. Given that, here is what I use:
>
> CW QSK Delay - 30% (just sounds better in my monitor)
> CW Rise/Fall - 10 mS (for slow speed DXing, 5 mS for contest speeds)
> EXT T/R Delay - 90% (for slow speed DXing, 75% for contest speeds)
>
> I'm concerned about all the bad things happen with QSK when
> using an amp, like RF back into the radio, reliability, hot-switching
> the amp's relay, etc. I selected the above delays to hopefully avoid
> these problems. BTW, I did try QSK with my QSK-capable Amp Supply
> amplifier, using Amp Supply's recommended method of keying, and I got
> reports of noticeably worse clicks, so now I NEVER use QSK. It might
> work fine barefoot but I will never use it with this amp.
>
> The Rise/Fall time should be set as a function of sending speed,
> since you need harder keying at high speeds (>30 WPM). Of course
> this also contributes to wider keyed bandwidth, so I normally use the
> softest setting (10 mS) for speeds <30 WPM (i.e. normal DXing).
>
> >Also, sure would be nice if TenTec gave us the option of turning on the
> radio and having the spectrum sweep come on automatically. What else
could
> possibly go in that blank area at the bottom of the screen?
>
> I've said the same to Gary AC4DL via ditsnbits at tentec.com. In
> fact, my comment to him was that EVERY setting at power down should
> be retained on power up. SUB AF mute is another issue which should
> be addressed. If you have it ON when you power down, it will come back
> as OFF when you power up. There may be more of these, but IMHO Orion
> should come back ON in the identical state you left it when you last
> turned it OFF. Everyone should send their comments to Gary since he is
> the one responsible for firmware issues like this.
>
> 73, Bill W4ZV
>
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> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:58:42 EST
> From: Kc9cdt at aol.com
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> Subject: [Orion] CW QSK etc.
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> Bill,
> 1) I agree with you on the QSK ( lack of PTT) issue with ORION.
> I don't go 20 -40 WPM and when I work CW I hate to have the radio come
back
> to RCV. between words. Good point about the potential problems with amps
as
> well.
>
> 2) Also it would be nice if the sweep ( and really all settings should
come
> back to where they were when the radio was turned off) would come on when
> powered up. AND the sub RX mute too, Oh the way I get around that is to
turn the
> Sub RX audio down to minimum instead of using mute.
>
> In a previous e-mail to Gary at TT, I indicated a longer time at the 100%
> setting would help the issue of QSK ( or Non-QSK) for me anyhow. It would
make it
> more like the old VOX method we used in the older radios. I liked that.
Not
> everyone wants QSK.
>
> I copied Gary on this e-mail also. Thanks for listening , Gary!
>
> ENJOYING THE ORION ALL DAY TODAY ( I have a day off!)
>
>
> 73,
> Lee, KC9CDT
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> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:04:14 -0000
> From: "Clive GM3POI" <gm3poi at btinternet.com>
> To: <Orion at contesting.com>
> Subject: [Orion] Orion de GM3POI
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> I am using my Orion in a similar fashion to how I use my FT1000D i.e. in
> full Diversity.
> The main Rx has the Tx Antennas coming into it and the Sub Rx has any of
my
> 10 Beverages going to it. Since receiving the Orion I have found it rather
> annoying that every parameter that I need on the Main Rx I virtually
always
> need on the Sub Rx in terms of bandwidth, NR, AGC etc.
> I would like to see an overriding Main=Sub parameter switch which can
be
> set to On so as to handle all the changes at once when setting the Main
Rx.
> I have passed this on to Gary at
> ditsnbits at tentec.com Has anyone else found the need to set parameters
twice
> annoying?
> 73 Clive Penna GM3POI
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