[Orion] Orion interface to N1MM logger

[Dave LeDuc]

I am switching from WL to N1MM also. I can't seem to get the Orion and N1MM
logger to work consistently. I am able to get them to work for a short while
then either the computer or the Orion hangs up. I am using windows XP which
may be contributing to the problem. I would be interested in any responses
that you get.

Dave N1IX

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[mailto:orion-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of W9GE
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 2:33 PM
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Subject: [Orion] Orion interface to N1MM logger


Has anyone interfaced the Orion to N1MM logger?  While my Orion was in the
shop being repaired I switched logging programs from WL to N1MM.

With the Orion back on the table, I cannot seem to make it interface to
N1MM.  Can someone  help, please.  Thanks  73 bob de w9ge
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>    1. Orion NR Function and Aurora-like Received CW Note
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> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:36:50 -0500
> From: Joe Giacobello <k2xx at swva.net>
> To: orion at contesting.com, tentec at contesting.com
> Subject: [Orion] Orion NR Function and Aurora-like Received CW Note
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> I am a new Orion owner after having bought a used unit last week.  The
> unit was just repaired and upgraded with the latest hardware changes
> about three weeks ago.  All seems to be working well except all of
> sudden the received CW audio turned somewhat raspy on all bands.  I have
> a vague recollection of having seen references to this problem in
> previous posts before purchasing the rig.  If so, can anyone enlighten
> me as to the source of the problem?
>
> While the NR function seems to work as described in the manual, I have
> comments and a question.  As I understand it, the NR function attempts
> to distinguish between noise and the desired signal and then
> automatically builds a filter window around the desired signal to
> minimize the noise and increase the S/N ratio.  It seems to me that when
> one attempts to enhance a weak signal in that manner, that automatic
> process would only be effective if the frequency were QRM-free.  In
> other words how is the processing able to distinguish between the
> desired (weak) signal and any interfering stations?  One argument might
> be that the processing only operates on signals exactly in the center of
> the passband.  Also, if one were able to eliminate QRM by narrowing the
> passband, then presumably there would be no problems.  On the other
> hand, in a simplex pileup the desired (weak) signal would be ignored by
> NR unless one were able to activate it when all QRM were absent.  Isn't
> this a serious limitation for an auto NR function vs the more common
> manual NR and signal peaking features of audio based DSP units such as
> the JPS NIR-12?  Do I have this right?  I'd be interested in hearing any
> comments on this topic.
>
> Thanks and 73 de Joe
>
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> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 00:04:06 -0500
> From: Joe Giacobello <k2xx at swva.net>
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> Subject: [Orion] Raspy Receive CW Note Problwm Solved
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> It took a master reset.  Don't understand why the problem arose in the
> first place.  I was copying CW on 30M when all of a sudden the problem
> appeared.  Finally decided on trying a master rest after having changed
> power supplies without any improvement.
>
> 73, Joe
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 08:58:24 -0600
> From: "Richard Detweiler" <rdetweil at hotmail.com>
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> Subject: RE: [Orion] Raspy Receive CW Note Problem Solved
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> Joe,
>
> Glad you got your Orion,  I think you'll come to really love it.  It's the
> best thing going today for RX performance.
>
> The problem you found seems to be a common problem many of us are seeing.
>
> When this happens, if you can,  try to record all you can and send it into
> ditnbits.  It may not be all that practical, but we all try.
>
> It may or may not be a microcode problem,  don't have an answer to that
yet.
>
> I'm seeing a couple of different symptoms,
>
> 1) the RX just gets poor,  signal is there but weak and distorted.,  No
> display changes all controlls seem to work,  I just master reset and go
on.
>
> 2) The RX Stops No Signal,  static though, and TX stops,  there is the
> lettering "DSP T/O 0" next to the send 2 key on the screen.  Again, master
> reset, and back on the air.
>
> These happen at inopportune times,  I've tried to keep the sweep off as it
> reduces the number of occurances.  Yet I've had it happen even with the
> sweep off.  It may be related to the PC polling the rig.
>
>
> 73's
> Rich
> K5SF
>
>
> >From: Joe Giacobello <k2xx at swva.net>
> >Reply-To: k2xx at swva.net
> >To: orion at contesting.com, tentec at contesting.com
> >Subject: [Orion] Raspy Receive CW Note Problwm Solved
> >Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 00:04:06 -0500
> >
> >It took a master reset.  Don't understand why the problem arose in the
> >first place.  I was copying CW on 30M when all of a sudden the problem
> >appeared.  Finally decided on trying a master rest after having changed
> >power supplies without any improvement.
> >
> >73, Joe
> >
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> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:57:36 -0500
> From: Joe Giacobello <k2xx at swva.net>
> To: Richard Detweiler <rdetweil at hotmail.com>
> Cc: orion at contesting.com
> Cc: tentec at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Orion] Raspy Receive CW Note Problem Solved
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> Rich, thanks for your confirmation that this is a known problem and that
> a master reset eliminates it.  BTW, the problem resurfaced last night
> about 60 minutes after I had tried the reset.  I have not connected the
> behavior with any particular mode or function being on.  I have only
> used the Orion on CW so far.  I do use the sweep.  I noticed that the
> received signals did indeed seem poor and the band (40M) sounded very
> noisy last night.  I wasn't sure whether it was the RX or the band was
> lousy.  (Unfortunately, about three days after I received the Orion, my
> 1000MP lost its audio and I had no way of comparing the two.)  I didn't
> notice any lettering as you describe and I never lost TX function, but
> I'll be checking things again this morning.
>
> Up to this point, the unit had been working well and I had been fine
> tuning parameters according to the manual and Sinisa's and Yuri's
> suggestions.  I actually thought the September revision to the manual
> was pretty good.  I notice that Sinisa's and the manual's "all purpose"
> AGC recommendations differ, but I'll be comparing them more thoroughly
> as I get to understand the AGC parameters better and become more
> familiar with the rig.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
> 73, Joe
>
> Richard Detweiler wrote:
>
> > Joe,
> >
> > Glad you got your Orion,  I think you'll come to really love it.  It's
> > the best thing going today for RX performance.
> >
> > The problem you found seems to be a common problem many of us are
seeing.
> >
> > When this happens, if you can,  try to record all you can and send it
> > into ditnbits.  It may not be all that practical, but we all try.
> >
> > It may or may not be a microcode problem,  don't have an answer to
> > that yet.
> >
> > I'm seeing a couple of different symptoms,
> >
> > 1) the RX just gets poor,  signal is there but weak and distorted.,
> > No display changes all controlls seem to work,  I just master reset
> > and go on.
> >
> > 2) The RX Stops No Signal,  static though, and TX stops,  there is the
> > lettering "DSP T/O 0" next to the send 2 key on the screen.  Again,
> > master reset, and back on the air.
> >
> > These happen at inopportune times,  I've tried to keep the sweep off
> > as it reduces the number of occurances.  Yet I've had it happen even
> > with the sweep off.  It may be related to the PC polling the rig.
> >
> >
> > 73's
> > Rich
> > K5SF
> >
> >
> >> From: Joe Giacobello <k2xx at swva.net>
> >> Reply-To: k2xx at swva.net
> >> To: orion at contesting.com, tentec at contesting.com
> >> Subject: [Orion] Raspy Receive CW Note Problwm Solved
> >> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 00:04:06 -0500
> >>
> >> It took a master reset.  Don't understand why the problem arose in
> >> the first place.  I was copying CW on 30M when all of a sudden the
> >> problem appeared.  Finally decided on trying a master rest after
> >> having changed power supplies without any improvement.
> >>
> >> 73, Joe
> >>
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