[Orion] [orion565] Orion Problem
Robert Carroll
rlcarroll at patmedia.net
Fri Mar 4 21:45:03 EST 2005
To clarify my previous mail, Ten Tec stated that normally the problem is a
total loss of noise from the affected receiver, indicating a DSP has
stopped. As of a few weeks ago, Gary told me they were not aware of
failures in which the receiver was alive but not tunable.
Bob W2WG
-----Original Message-----
From: orion-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:orion-bounces at contesting.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Carroll
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 9:20 PM
To: orion565 at yahoogroups.com; orion at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Orion] [orion565] Orion Problem
I have had this problem a number of times as well and have reported it to
Ten Tec. Actually you might check whether you ARE in fact hearing band noise
by switching to Ant 2 or by disconnecting the real antenna. I think you
will find the band noise decreases, indicating you are more or less hearing
something. Usually I hear absolutely nothing, but the first time I found
myself in this situation I heard a sound like the call of a humpback whale.
I reported it as such to Ten Tec, but thought I was hearing a real signal as
opposed to a noise generated by the DSPs because it disappeared when the
antenna was disconnected. Usually I simply hear the band noise you
describe, but on two occasions I was lucky enough to find the main receiver
was in fact alive, but was sitting on a frequency outside the ham
bands--which is a place the main receiver is not supposed to be able to go.
I started reporting this to Ten Tec as a "VFO disconnected" failure. After
discussing this with Ten Tec I checked very carefully the next time a
failure occurred to make sure VFO lock was not activated or that in fact I
did not have a VFO assigned to the receiver. By the way, using the LOGIC
logging program I find that I can set the main receiver to a frequency
outside the ham bands, a situation that probably should be detected and
denied by the Orion.
Yesterday the Orion had been playing fine in the shack for a few hours with
me out in an adjacent room-- no dial twiddling, no RF, etc. At some point I
became aware I was not hearing cw at 14.005 but some sort of phone signal
and a heterodyne. Coming into the shack I was pretty incensed about hearing
pirates in Spanish in the dx portion of the band. After a couple of minutes
I realized that tuning the VFO did not change what I was hearing--and after
changing the filter, mode etc I found I was listening to a commercial AM sw
broadcast--I don’t know the frequency. The subreceiver, assigned to the
same VFO, received and tuned on 20m cw normally. I then looked at spots in
LOGIC, clicked on them, and found I could command the Orion to the spot freq
and hear the signals. But I could not move the Orion by turning the VFO
dial. AS I worked through this I made an MP3 recording of what I was
hearing and shipped it to DITSNBITS along with notes on what I was doing at
various points of the recording.
I did correspond with Gary of Ten Tec after a previous instance of this type
of failure and asked him if it had been reported by others. He said it had
not, so I suspect though Ten Tec has been working on other receiver lockups,
this one has not been on their lists. I would suggest that ANYONE having
had this type of failure should report it to dits-n-bits so that they will
realize it is a problem not confined to my particular Orion.
Bob W2WG
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Tuck [mailto:garyltuck at comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 7:57 PM
To: orion565 at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [orion565] Orion Problem
Bill, I've lost the receiver altogether. You can hear what you think
is band noise but no signals. So, it's especially bad. I've thought
the band was dead to find that my problem was the receiver. Listening
on the sub receiver demonstrated the band was alive. Now I always
double check.
Gary W7TEA
On Mar 4, 2005, at 4:03 PM, Bill Erney wrote:
> Has anyone else on this group experience the problem
> described by Larry, N0XB? Would appreciate any replies
> to the reflector or to me directly, w3il at arrl.net.
>
> Bill, W3IL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Menzel [mailto:retire at means.net]
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 5:58 PM
> To: orion565 at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [orion565] Orion Problem
>
>
>
> I’ve not experienced the low receive problem
my receive has
> completely gone
> away on the A vfo. B still works fine. I had to do a hard reset to
> get it
> to come back. It went out when I was switching between band stacking
> registers. Nothing I could do, short of the hard reset would work.
>
>
>
> I’ve also found that when things are working well, do a USER 1 save.
> For
> all but the most radical issue, see above, this restores it to a
> working
> state.
>
>
>
> What’s with this anyhow? I have only had mine a week, and I’ve had
> several
> “dead” receiver issues. Anyone at TT monitoring this?
>
>
>
> Larry, N0XB
>
> Northfield, MN
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: George [mailto:gliepins at nc.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 4:49 PM
> To: orion565 at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [orion565] Orion Problem
>
>
>
>
> I bought my Orion in August of 2003. It worked without any problems
> for a more than a year and I love the rig.
>
> I have two morning schedules throughout the week, one on 80 meters,
> another on 20 meters. Recently, first time about a year ago, it
> developed the following symptom. After turning on the set, I would
> experience very low reception, but my transmitted signals were
> reported to be normal strength, as reported by the roundtable
> attendees. This happened more than once, when I decided to do a
> reset. After the reset my receive signal strength returned to normal
> levels. During the last few months this phenomenon occured more
> often, but a reset brought it back to normal reception.
>
> Now, when I see a low signal level showing on the sweep, and almost
> an absence of signals, I get suspicious and I reset, and voila', the
> band is back in normal strength.
>
> Has anyone experienced something similar? The software has been
> regularly updated.
>
> George, KE4HW
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