Yep, a big problem. My XYL did not appreciate this phenomenon either. My fix: After trying a lot of different approaches, I returned the lamps and got boring, old fashioned ones. 73's George K0IW -- Submissions: rfi@contesting.com Administrative requests: rfi-REQUEST@contesting.com WWW: http://www.contesting.com/rfi-faq.html Questions: owner-rfi@contesting.com