[RFI] RFI alert

[Jack Shirley]

http://www.oriones.com/

6 bulb fixture

Companies are replacing their mercury vapor, high pressure sodium and metal
halide fixtures with these for energy savings. You can see a picture of it
in the brochure.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:01 PM, R March <n7ua at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> What type of system is it Rick? What's it called?  Maybe I missed part of
> the threat, but would like to be able to tell people near me what not to
> use.  Thanks,  Bob  N7UA
>
>
> Jack Shirley wrote:
>
>> YES!
>> I suspect they are using a very high freq. switching.  In this particular
>> plant there were boxes of these fixtures and they were installing hundreds
>> of them.  If anyone lives near an industrial area where these seem to be
>> targeted, lots of luck.   Something the ARRL should jump on.  I am
>> guessing
>> there is some type of tax credit for such fixtures.
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Rick Saeger <rsaeger at ptd.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> I have firsthand experience with these lights.  There is a horse farm
>>> barn
>>> 2000' from my qth. They installed 8 of these devices to replace the
>>> existing
>>> fluorescent lighting. It was an RF disaster! They created s9+20 noise
>>> from
>>> 20m and up(and that is 2000' away). My operating is primarily contesting.
>>> As
>>> a result of these lights it made that virtually impossible.
>>>
>>> After a three year battle with the help of the ARRL and the FCC the owner
>>> eventually replaced them all with a halogen lighting system which is dead
>>> RF
>>> quiet.
>>>
>>> This type of battle can take a lot out of you and is not a fun experience
>>> for anyone involved.
>>>
>>> If you happen to have any one install this type of system near you. GL
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Rick K3OO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rfi-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:rfi-bounces at contesting.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Jack Shirley
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 6:01 AM
>>> To: Roger (K8RI)
>>> Cc: rfi at contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [RFI] RFI alert
>>>
>>> I'm guessing that its ultra efficient electronic ballast design, eg,
>>> transformer-less: most likely considered and incidental radiator. I have
>>> not
>>> check the USPTO for patent info.
>>>
>>> The transformers in my fluorescent lights get very hot, so that would be
>>> the
>>> first target for improved.efficiency.
>>>
>>> 73  N8DX
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Roger (K8RI) <k8ri at rogerhalstead.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jack Shirley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.oriones.com/
>>>>> Fluorescent lighting with electronic ballasts.
>>>>> I was just at a large company and they are replacing all their HID
>>>>> lamps
>>>>> with these fixtures. Apparently the RFI was so bad it interfered with
>>>>> their
>>>>> radio controlled cranes.
>>>>> I believe there is some tax incentive for companies to make the change.
>>>>> Heads up.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I wonder what they are doing. I looked at the web page, but all I found
>>>>
>>>>
>>> was
>>>
>>>
>>>> they are using a high intensity system. All of the lights in my shop are
>>>> fluorescents (22 8', 75 watt tubes), or 1650 watts. If they were
>>>> incandescents I could heat the place with them, but I'd need one whale
>>>> of
>>>>
>>>>
>>> an
>>>
>>>
>>>> airconditioner in the summer.
>>>> With the conventional fluorescents I have no RF hash, but they are
>>>> sometimes noisy as in an audible noise.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>>
>>>> Roger (K8RI)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 73  N8DX
>>>>>
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