[RFI] Phone update
rick darwicki
n6pe at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 15 18:51:46 PST 2010
This is about a 900mhz type phone/answering machine, so old I can't put on speaker to see if I'm the antenna. Today I got my wife a new "rig" with a base and two other phone. Hope that puts an end to it, otherwise I have to get rid of her.
Rick, N6PE
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I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted pay checks.
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> 1. Re: Another Direct TV RFI Question
> (Jim Brown)
> 2. Re: Internet access (David Jordan)
> 3. Re: Fw: Direct TV DVR problems
> (KD7JYK DM09)
> 4. Re: Fw: Direct TV DVR problems
> (Joe)
> 5. Re: Fw: Direct TV DVR problems
> (KD7JYK DM09)
> 6. Re: Fw: Direct TV DVR problems
> (Tom Horton)
> 7. Re: Fw: Direct TV DVR problems
> (KD7JYK DM09)
> 8. Phone (rick darwicki)
> 9. Re: Phone (Jim Brown)
> 10. Re: Phone (Peter Laws)
> 11. Re: Phone (Peter Laws)
> 12. Re: Phone (KD7JYK DM09)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 12:20:57 -0800
> From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Another Direct TV RFI Question
> To: rfi at contesting.com
> Message-ID: <4D07D1A9.6010409 at audiosystemsgroup.com>
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> On 12/14/2010 11:08 AM, AE5B wrote:
> > How about the
> > current DTV HD receivers? Do they come equipped with a
> flock of birdies.
>
> LCD TVs are pretty much problem-free -- no RFI to or from
> the set. The
> most widely reported on "good" brands have been Sony,
> Samsung, and LG.
> All three get decent ratings for pix quality.
>
> DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT A PLASMA -- REAL RFI
> GENERATORS!
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 15:23:25 -0500
> From: "David Jordan" <Wa3gin at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Internet access
> To: "'AE5B'" <ae5b at arrl.net>,
> <rfi at contesting.com>
> Message-ID:
> <702878DF78F34B80B56FD144E96831AF at DTSD63937A3BA9>
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> Some have had great luck with Air Cards (EVDO 3G) using
> routers that accept
> the air card and then running up some LMR400 to an outside
> yagi pointed at
> the nearest cell tower.
>
> I have been using wireless EVDO air cards from all three
> carriers sometimes
> bounded together to achieve speeds >8Mbps.
> Typically I use a single AT&T
> HSPA version 4.1 which serves up abt 3.2Mbps with great
> reliability. There
> is no Cable or DSL available. The local wireless service
> provider will not
> guarantee more than 500Kbps and the SAT data services
> suffer during
> thunderstorm season and winter snow storms as well as when
> major incidents
> occur in the US.
>
> So, if you have even marginal cell service you might try
> locating several
> near by cell towers, 2-3miles, and installing a wireless
> service.
>
> 73,
> Dave
> Wa3gin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rfi-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:rfi-bounces at contesting.com]
> On
> Behalf Of AE5B
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 2:32 PM
> To: rfi at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Internet access
>
> Didn't mean to stir up a Wildblue/Hughes Net debate.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 14:41:31 -0800
> From: "KD7JYK DM09" <kd7jyk at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Fw: Direct TV DVR problems
> To: "dalej" <dj2001x at comcast.net>,
> "Group RFI" <rfi at contesting.com>
> Message-ID:
> <024b01cb9be1$a6633ee0$d1a5f604 at mainframe>
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> "In over 10 years with Dish network I have yet to connect a
> phone line to
> the receiver even though the user manual says a phone line
> needs to be
> connected."
>
> I had a problem with DirecTV. I was told it was need
> for pay-per-view. I'm
> not interested in
> PPV. "Connect it anyway, it needs to be
> connected". No- why? So our
> system can call your box and communicate with it. No,
> I don't want my phone
> ringing and disrupting me. Your phone won't
> ring. How does it know you're
> calling? It knows... We can't set up your
> system without the phone line
> connect. Fine, I just connected it (get real).
> It never was and has not
> been in the ten years I've had the system. They've
> never called either.
>
> As for fees for not having the phone line connected, the
> price has gone up
> from $22 to $48 and we've lost channels. They find
> some other way to stick
> it to us.
>
> What's the scam?
>
> Kurt
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 15:07:25 -0800
> From: Joe <wa6rkn at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Fw: Direct TV DVR problems
> To: "Dave Harmon" <k6xyz at sbcglobal.net>,
> "RFI" <RFI at Contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <C13C9575CAB2451EB0B22B129DDC168E at main>
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> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070615203232AAovvzp
>
> This should put an end to the RFI Group, "does or does not"
> debate, on
> whether Dish Network charges a telephone connection fee.
>
> My DVR is a VIP612 and is a single receiver..so..no phone
> charge.
>
> Now..back to our regularly scheduled discusions on RFI and
> CFL bulbs. (Or
> whatever!!)
>
> Joe Wolfe
> WA6RKN
> Reno, Nevada
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 17:02:45 -0800
> From: "KD7JYK DM09" <kd7jyk at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Fw: Direct TV DVR problems
> To: "RFI" <RFI at Contesting.com>
> Message-ID:
> <006c01cb9bf4$195e3140$dea7f604 at mainframe>
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> : Now..back to our regularly scheduled discusions on RFI
> and CFL bulbs. (Or
> : whatever!!)
>
> I went to walmart a couple of weeks ago to buy some
> incandescents. There
> was a 30' swath of various wattages. This week, there
> was a 2' end cap of
> 67 W (???) and 100W. I bought what little there
> was. Expect more RFI from
> even crappier CFLs getting pushed on the market.
>
> Maybe next week the only thing with filaments will be
> heaters, toasters and
> microwaves.
>
> Kurt
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 18:16:33 -0800 (PST)
> From: Tom Horton <k5iid at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Fw: Direct TV DVR problems
> To: RFI <RFI at Contesting.com>,
> KD7JYK DM09 <kd7jyk at earthlink.net>
> Message-ID: <236599.98194.qm at web82105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> Vacuum tubes still have filaments!
>
> --- On Tue, 12/14/10, KD7JYK DM09 <kd7jyk at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> From: KD7JYK DM09 <kd7jyk at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Fw: Direct TV DVR problems
> To: "RFI" <RFI at Contesting.com>
> Date: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 7:02 PM
>
>
> : Now..back to our regularly scheduled discusions on RFI
> and CFL bulbs.? (Or
> : whatever!!)
>
> I went to walmart a couple of weeks ago to buy some
> incandescents.? There
> was a 30' swath of various wattages.? This week, there was
> a 2' end cap of
> 67 W (???) and 100W.? I bought what little there was.?
> Expect more RFI from
> even crappier CFLs getting pushed on the market.
>
> Maybe next week the only thing with filaments will be
> heaters, toasters and
> microwaves.
>
> Kurt
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 18:35:54 -0800
> From: "KD7JYK DM09" <kd7jyk at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Fw: Direct TV DVR problems
> To: "RFI" <RFI at Contesting.com>
> Message-ID:
> <006501cb9c02$82f1e670$c0a1f604 at mainframe>
> Content-Type: text/plain;
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>
> "Vacuum tubes still have filaments!"
>
> All the vacuum tubes I saw at walmart were for shop-vacs.
>
> Kurt
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:23:09 -0800 (PST)
> From: rick darwicki <n6pe at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [RFI] Phone
> To: rfi at contesting.com
> Message-ID: <587836.37743.qm at web51504.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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> I have large multiturn LF and HF material chokes on my old
> portable phone line, right at the phone.
>
> If I have the phone in one hand up to my ear and transmit
> on 10 Meters, I can hear CW in the phone. If I grasp the
> ferrite chokes with my other hand, the interference goes
> away or drop to almost nothing.
>
> Watsup wid dat?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Rick, N6PE
> ===========================================================================
> I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted
> pay checks.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:38:27 -0800
> From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Phone
> To: rfi at contesting.com
> Message-ID: <4D08EF03.2040909 at audiosystemsgroup.com>
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> On 12/15/2010 8:23 AM, rick darwicki wrote:
> > I have large multiturn LF and HF material chokes on my
> old portable phone line, right at the phone.
>
> What's a portable phone line? Do you mean a
> radio-based wireless
> extension of your wired phone line? If this is what
> you're describing,
> I'd guess that your body is acting as an antenna to couple
> 10M RF into
> the portable handset (which is really a UHF radio
> transceiver), and the
> poorly designed circuits in that portable handset are
> detecting the RF.
> When you grab the ferrite choke with one hand, the RF
> current carried by
> your body is being diverted away from the portable handset
> to the
> telephone wiring.
>
> The above is a WAG. :) But think about it -- when you
> use a 2M talkie,
> your body is acting as the return for antenna current
> through the rubber
> duck, just like radials are acting like the return for
> antenna current
> with an HF vertical antenna, or the car body acts as a
> return for
> antenna current with a mobile antenna.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:13:48 -0600
> From: Peter Laws <plaws at plaws.net>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Phone
> To: rfi at contesting.com
> Message-ID:
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> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:23, rick darwicki <n6pe at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > I have large multiturn LF and HF material chokes on my
> old portable phone line, right at the phone.
> >
> > If I have the phone in one hand up to my ear and
> transmit on 10 Meters, I can hear CW in the phone. If I
> grasp the ferrite chokes with my other hand, the
> interference goes away or drop to almost nothing.
> >
> > Watsup wid dat?
>
>
> Stop talking on the phone when you are supposed to be
> working DX! :-)
>
>
> --
> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:17:04 -0600
> From: Peter Laws <plaws at plaws.net>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Phone
> To: rfi at contesting.com
> Message-ID:
> <AANLkTimPGnHj8n0w_DopMgZAT9AsTEzSU8LpONBU7ocP at mail.gmail.com>
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> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:13, Peter Laws <plaws at plaws.net>
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:23, rick darwicki <n6pe at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >> I have large multiturn LF and HF material chokes
> on my old portable phone line, right at the phone.
> >>
> >> If I have the phone in one hand up to my ear and
> transmit on 10 Meters, I can hear CW in the phone. If I
> grasp the ferrite chokes with my other hand, the
> interference goes away or drop to almost nothing.
> >>
> >> Watsup wid dat?
> >
> >
> > Stop talking on the phone when you are supposed to be
> working DX! ?:-)
>
> In seriousness, let me add that when you say "old" you open
> up a can
> of RF worms.
>
> Most cordless phones are UHF *now* (35-cm band or higher),
> but go back
> a decade and a lot were still VHF-lo (45-50 MHz). Go
> back two or more
> decades and some used MF (around 1.7 MHz, IIRC) for half
> the circuit
> with 45-50 MHz on the other side.
>
>
>
> --
> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 10:39:24 -0800
> From: "KD7JYK DM09" <kd7jyk at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Phone
> To: <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>,
> <rfi at contesting.com>
> Message-ID:
> <01db01cb9c89$305b8d30$d5a2f604 at mainframe>
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>
> : the portable handset (which is really a UHF radio
> transceiver), and the
> : poorly designed circuits in that portable handset are
> detecting the RF.
>
> Verify frequency range, could also be LW, MW, HF, VHF or
> microwave.
>
> Kurt
>
>
>
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