[RFI] ARRL to FCC...

Sat Jul 26 19:24:49 EDT 2014

I forgot to mention my thoughts on your comment below...

Grow lights are legal ONLY when they meet FCC RFI standards...  If they
don't then they are not legal, and should be removed, and all imports
stopped.  It does not matter what someone are growing...  No one cares-
as long as they are RFI quiet.  I support the ARRL 100% on their going
after grow lights, and hope they increase their testing, and reporting
programs for them.

Grow Lights, as they are being implemented today, are a MASSIVE issue
for all of Amateur Radio.  As you yourself said:  Lets get it fixed
while there is a window to do so...  I agree 100% with you!

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On Sat, 2014-07-26 at 19:13 +0000, Donald Chester wrote:
GROW LIGHTS ARE LEGAL PRODUCTS, widely used for many other purposes
besides growing cannabis, such as vegetable plants and ornamental
flowers. Like other electrical and electronic devices, some are clean
and others spew out RFI, and RFI inevitably generates unwanted
attention. 

> 
> 
> > From: David Cole <dave at nk7z.net>
> 
> >
> > I chair our clubs RFI committee, and we help locate RFI for hams that
> > can't. Your comment has hit one of my major concerns right square on
> > the head!
> >
> > One of my nightmares is that I help a grower to quiet down a grow
> > operation, then he gets busted and tells the DEA NK7Z helped me, my life
> > will get very complicated very quickly... So I don't do that, I just
> > hand out our sheet, which we paid a lawyer to check out, and let them
> > know that we will be reporting it very soon if things don't get fixed...
> > No offer of help is made in any way... If help is asked for, I explain
> > the above to them, and they seem to understand, I then refer them to the
> > FCC and the ARRL's web sites, tell them thank you, remind them once more
> > they are causing problems, and then move on...
> >
> > This entire situation with growers is really quite unfair to Hams in
> > general because the Amateur Operator is not breaking any laws, and is in
> > fact providing Emergency communications, and is exposed to at least the
> > list below:
> >
> > 1. The Amateur Operator is put at risk of being shot.
> > 2. The Amateur Operator is being put at risk of being sued.
> > 3. The Amateur Operator's family might come to be at risk if a grower
> > is not legal and gets wind he is being DFed.
> > 4. The Amateur Operator is placed in the enforcer role by the FCC not
> > doing any active RFI enforcement.
> > 6. The states are encouraging the legalization process with out
> > adequate thought to what can happen as a result, like RFI.
> > 7. Most of the people generating the RFI don't even know what RFI is,
> > so the Amateur Operators are placed in a position of being involved with
> > growers, in at least a possible first contact scenario.
> > 8. The process is not legal federally, so any contact an Amateur
> > Operator has-- places him.her at more risk.
> > 9. All for a hobby...
> >
> > Any sane person looking at that list would say, drop the hobby like a
> > hot potato, some hams say leave it alone and live with it... But as we
> > all know neither is is going to happen... But-- I wonder how many hams
> > are getting discouraged by the RFI levels in the legal grow states, they
> > are really high, (pun intended), in the legal states...
> >
> > Until you have lived in a legal grow state, in a residential area, you
> > have NO IDEA how bad it can get... We have caused at least three grow
> 
> 
> 
> > operations to move, or stop, all within a one mile radius of my QTH...
> 
> 
> > We live in a nice residential area where homes are close to 300K each,
> > not in Deliverance country, so pretty much everyone is getting Cards and
> > growing. I can only hope legalization puts some controls on things here
> > in Oregon.
> >
> > One person I know simply turns off his rig at 7:31 every night, when the
> > grow lights come on... 40 over S9 on 80 through 10 Meters... The same
> > source, 1/2 mile form me is only 10 over S9 on 40 meters... The three
> > other hams involved are not happy campers either... See a previous post
> > about locating this source if interested...
> >
> > I just wish there was a professional locating service for this, I would
> > pay them a lot hard cash to locate the house, then I would report it to
> > the FCC. This single source is really difficult to locate-- again see
> > my previous post if interested why...
> >
> 
> >
> > On Fri, 2014-07-25 at 13:55 +0000, EDWARDS, EDDIE J wrote:
> >> "I am not enough of a lawyer to know what the line is for how much I can help a grower quiet down an operation, it is after all still not legal federally..."
> >>
> >> I'm not a lawyer either. I too am wondering how it would be viewed by the DEA during their raids if they find a nearby ham's contact info on the grower's or on multiple grower's contact lists, or if find on documents showing the ham has been assisting with RFI issues. I know I would not take that chance no matter where I lived.
> >>
> >> For those who think the federal DEA isn't doing raids under the current admin or in legal states, you might be surprised at the selective grower raids they are currently doing. Sometimes has to do with other activities or items on site like guns.
> >>
> >> http://www.yakimaherald.com/news/latestlocalnews/2291671-8/medical-pot-users-with-guns-target-of-dea
> >>
> >> http://blogs.kqed.org/newsfix/2011/10/13/mendocino-county-raid-has-marijuana-advocates-riled/
> >>
> >> http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_25666066/dea-raids-vip-cannabis-cuts-open-safes
> >>
> >> http://www.denverpost.com/marijuana/ci_25154625/new-details-emerge-colorado-marijuana-operators-raided-by
> >>
> >> 73, de ed -K0iL
> 
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