You guys are spoiled. If I had S-4 or 5 on average I'd consider it very quiet. :) Dale, k9vuj On 24, Mar 2014, at 14:33, David Robbins <k1ttt at verizon.net> wrote: > believe it or not there are hams with noise levels around s0 most of the time. if I had an s2 noise that wasn't from atmospherics I would be out hunting! >