[RFI] ARRL Board of Directors resolution related to FCC enforcement of radio-interference issues

Roger (K8RI) k8ri at rogerhalstead.com
Mon Aug 3 23:13:07 EDT 2015


Not always.
Back in , I believe it was the 1990s Chrysler had a V-6 in a new line of 
cars. (Cab forward?)  The computers in those cars from a block distant 
could over power our repeater just 2 miles distant. I was interested in 
purchasing one, but discovered the computer signal on a test drive.  The 
dealer worked with me to pinpoint the problem.  He was very helpful. It 
turned out to only be on the high performance configuration of cars with 
that engine.  However the response from Chrysler was basically.  Tough! 
Live with it. Two years later they still had the same problem, but it 
was eventually fixed.  In the mean time I purchased a Trans Am.

Industry is learning, but I believe the learning process still is 
ongoing with new RFI sources constantly showing up.

Had it not been for the ARRL,  BPL would have become a reality.  I 
believe it took many hours (over years?) for that process which Ed 
should be able verify.  Thanks for the hard work Ed.

Having been an instrument rated pilot and heavily involved,  I'm quite 
familiar with the following about 5 to 6 years ago.

The same is true with LightSquared and their ground based wireless 
augmentation system which would have placed many ( I believe it was to 
be 40,000.) 40 KW ground based transmitters next to the GPS satellite 
down link frequencies.  Based on their information provided to the FCC 
that there would be no interference,  the FCC granted temporary approval 
for the installation of ground transmitters even though the satellite 
industry and aviation groups provided information that these 
transmitters would (not could) create dangerous interference to aircraft 
using GPS navigation, particularly in high density traffic areas around 
major airports and cities.  I believe you will find that the FCC 
violated their own rules in the case of  authorizing (even on a trial 
basis) of LightSquared's ground based transmitters.  They went so far as 
to provide the FCC with what was basically false information.     Only 
the massive input from other Federal departments, industry, and 
individuals finally stopped the implementation.  There were likely to be 
Billions of dollars at stake in the future.  The whole story including 
reason, makes for interesting reading, but not here.

How it was done:  Quote from "The Left Seat": " the FCC issued the 
wavier for a ground based system in the satellite bands against the 
concerns and recommendations of the Department of Defense, 
Transportation, and Homeland Security AND its own guidelines. The NPRM 
was issued in such a manner that the comment period was far shorter than 
normal. On top of that the accelerated test schedule, LightSquared is 
the only one who will present the data to the FCC, and they are required 
to have equipment in place “IF” the OK is given."  Links were provided 
in the blog.

That it went away quietly with no fanfare raises questions.  You almost 
have to go to the pilot groups to find out the real details.  
"LightSquared ground based transmitters to interfere with GPS" as search 
criteria did produce results, but much of the drama is no longer there, 
although I did not follow all of the links.   The "Left Seat" blog 
should provide some interesting background.

In these instances Industry was anything but proactive.  There will 
always be companies like LightSquared pushing the limits.

Off shore companies producing these little switching power supplies 
aren't worried as the FCC can go after the importers and chains selling 
their products. Even prevent the importation of their products, but they 
can easily change their name or names. Until the FCC tests random 
samples of every one of these products on a continuing basis, they will 
be imported by the millions.  I don't think the FCC has near the 
required manpower to even think about undertaking  such a job, or the 
money to hire it done. Hence the "Case by case" approach.  We are few in 
relative numbers, so the numbers without complaints and happy customers 
keep these RFI generators coming in and raising the noise floor ever so 
slowly.  Eventually you will need to move well into the country to even 
think about weak signal work on HF, or even higher.  Hopefully things 
will change for the better.

I have worked quite a few AU signals on six that were so weak they 
didn't even show on the scope which was a straight line with the noise 
being barely visible.  I could only hear a slight change in the 
background noise (AU buzz) with CW.    Even raising the noise floor a db 
would likely make that impossible.  But what do we do when the RFI is 
caused by thousands, or more of these devices? It's like trying to find 
a single blade of grass in an over grown pasture. Removing the one is 
quickly over shadowed by the thousands that take its place.

I never noted light pollution until we lived way out in the country. One 
night I stepped out on the front porch, looked up at the night sky and 
was astounded by the mass of stars, yet it was so dark, I almost fell 
off the porch.  Like the noise floor slowly creeping up, I never noticed 
the light pollution until I had something with out it for comparison.  
In many ham cases we only have our old memories on which to rely.

We can provide RFI data for individual items, but when produced by a 
cottage industry spread over a very wide area, there is likely to be 
little consistency, even between light bulbs on the same shelf.  So how 
can we as individuals, or a group provide meaningful information when 
it's quite possible a test lab could end up with a case of perfectly 
quiet samples?  Again, we are back to the case by case problem.    
Eventually, the sheer volume will make automated, mass production 
cheaper than the cottage industry.  Then we will see consistency but who 
knows when..

73

Roger  (K8RI)



On 8/3/2015 2:50 PM, Hare, Ed W1RFI wrote:
>> A billion dollar corporation is going to stand silent while the FCC either forces their product to be
>> removed or re-engineered at great expense?
>
> The automotive industry also has been very pro-active about avoiding EMI problems involving Amateur Radio, developing standards for the installation of on-board transmitters.
>


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