[RFI] Portable DFing at HF (long)

[EDWARDS, EDDIE J]

A scary FCC letter is all you'll get out of the FCC today.  There's no teeth in Part 15 enforcement when it comes to anything but power line noise, and BPL proved that not solid either.  I have not heard of any individuals actually hauled into court over RFI from a Part 15 device they legally purchased at a retail store.  

Once you go federal law on someone who knows it's a toothless letter, you are done.  No options are left to resolve the problem.  While you may be technically correct it's not our monkey, not our circus, you've cut off any chance to remove the RFI problem from your receiver.  You'll just have to live with it or move away from it.

We had one utility customer who faced that problem when his lawyer neighbor with a noisy ceiling fan knew there was nothing he could do except call the FCC.  She still has her noisy fan, and he can't hear anything on his AM radio.  End of story.  

Seems it be easier to save calling in the feds until after a neighborly conversation to get the feel for what might be possible first.  

73, de ed -K0iL  

-----Original Message-----
From: RFI [mailto:rfi-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of KD7JYK DM09
: I think of it more in terms of getting along with our neighbors. It's
: strongly related to diplomacy.

How about big (or little) business?  Are we to march down the street and
open the door of every fly-by-night shop with a noisy LED sign or 
what-have-you and tell them what's up, cuz dang it, we gotta license? 
Diplomacy or not, that usually doesn't go over well no matter who we think 
they should think we are.

Refer to, "why"", "who are we?" and "what power do we have" as mentioned
previously.  At no point did I suggest pistol whipping the OM down the road,
re-read:  "the 'good neighbor' policy, which I fully understand can work in
many instances".  Not to be confused with walking up to someone and, (insert
an absurd amount of diplomacy here) receiving a potential response of:
"Whatever.  Piss off, nerd!".  In reality, they owe one no more than that,
so now what is one to do?

Suppose we ask a large national organization to assist us with the matter?
What will they send to the person that appears to be in violation?  First,
some more failed diplomacy (see above, "Whatever.  Piss off, nerd", for
those who forgot already).  Great, no more toilet paper shortage for them or
maybe some heat for the winter for those that didn't care to begin with,
delivered right to their door.  That went swimmingly.

What will also be mentioned on our behalf?  In a quite easily perceived
"holier than thou" fashion, at the very least, Part 15, 18, and 97 as it
pertains to many of those in this forum and how those even MORE holier than
they- enforces them....  You know, "the law".  Bet that goes over even
better.

Suppose you don't ask this large organization to assist?  What other options
are there?  Go to what's left.

Anyone seen the initially apparent scary letters from these people?  They
start with "the law", mentioning, depending on the situation a whole BUNCHA
"laws" about what you may be interfering with or are in violation of, Part
5, 13, 15, 18, 20, 22, 27, 73, 74, 80, 87, 90, 95, 97, "land-line
telecommunications", rare, but I've heard it, and no doubt some others I
can't think of at the moment since I'm only casually involved in this stuff,
then go straight to how much yer gonna pay with applicable CFRs and parallel
USCs to support how they're gonna get it from you more quickly than you'd
prefer.  Bet that gets the job done.

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