[RFI] Visualizing Line Noise

JW jwin95 at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 13 07:46:08 EST 2017


Oops ... my bad ..




The  'missing link' as it were:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-S5ef-Ne6Y


de Jim

      From: JW via RFI <rfi at contesting.com>
 To: "jim at audiosystemsgroup.com" <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>; "rfi at contesting.com" <rfi at contesting.com> 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 6:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [RFI] Visualizing Line Noise
  
Here is _clear_ identification of a line noise source indicated by its synchronization with the AC line as seen on an oscilloscope triggered by the local AC line.

A single cycle of 60 Hz line is also shown to allow inspection as to the fixed phase relationship between the arcing noise and the AC main reference waveform. Also bear in mind we don't know which of the 3 phases in the distribution network is the source of the arcing noise source.

This technique provides positive indication of an AC-line time-related as opposed to say, video-related pulse train.

Years ago I noted a buzz in the 20 meter band that was _not_ AC line related, perhaps a neighbors video system was leaking or something ...

I don't see how a "waterfall" display would provide this type of signal discrimination using only the frequency domain.

A PC-based application known as Spectrum Lab could probably be used in lieu of an actual oscilloscope to view synchronization of a 'buzz' noise source with respect to the local AC line voltage. 

de Jim WB5WPA


      From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
 To: rfi at contesting.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 11:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [RFI] Visualizing Line Noise
  
Pete,

My tutorial on identifying RFI shows that a spectrum scope with a 
waterfall display is probably the most effective tool for that. If you 
haven't taken the time to study it, I suggest that you do. SDRs can be 
bought for as little as $150, and the software is free.

73, Jim K9YC


On 12/12/2017 7:28 PM, N4ZR wrote:
> I recently ran across a neat little program called Soundcard Scope, 
> which displays 0-20,000 Hz either oscilloscope style or as a vertical 
> bar chart by the amount of energy on a given frequency. It seems to me 
> this should be useful for characterizing line noise.  Has anyone 
> experimented with it for this purpose?
>

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