[RFI] Solar Panel RFI Video

[Dave Cole (NK7Z)]

Mike,

If that were to happen then you could kiss all support goodbye until a 
court action forced a vendor to act...  Be careful what you wish for...

In VE land, a VE friend leads me to believe that there is NO RFI support 
by the government at all, nothing, zip, Nada, zilch!  I am also told by 
that same friend that if you have an RFI issue, you take it to civil 
court on your dime, and hope you win...

Again, be careful what you wish for...

Slow and steady...  That should be our course...

73s and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Technical Specialist

On 08/13/2018 10:12 AM, Mike Kirkland wrote:
> Based on my personal experience I have to completely disagree with the 
> comments about solar edge.
> 
> I have found solar edge to be completely unresponsive, completely 
> ineffective, and generally uncaring about the major amounts of rfi being 
> generated all across the country by their products.
> 
> As for a solar edge engineer being several months late; hint - their not 
> coming.
> 
> In my interference issue, solar city is the owner operator of the 
> system, not the home owner.
> 
> At least solar edge was polite and professional in communications unlike 
> solar city's rude, personality offensive, asshole (it takes a lot of 
> abuse to get me to use that word publicly) approach.
> 
> I believe all solar edge systems need to be shut down and only brought 
> back online when each system is proven to not cause interference.
> 
> I think we need a class action law suit.
> 
> I am coming up on my 3rd year of basically being wiped of the air!
> 
> 
> On Aug 13, 2018 8:01 AM, "Dave Cole (NK7Z)" <dave at nk7z.net 
> <mailto:dave at nk7z.net>> wrote:
> 
>     Ed,
> 
>     I agree completely!  Thank you for the reminder!  Solar Edge is
>     treating
>     the Amateur community very well here.  Sending out engineers is far
>     beyond what most other companies are doing.
> 
>     73s and thanks,
>     Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
>     https://www.nk7z.net
>     ARRL Technical Specialist
> 
> 
>     On 08/13/2018 07:41 AM, Hare, Ed  W1RFI wrote:
>      > We have found Solar Edge to be receptive and interested in
>     resolving the problems from their existing design.  Keep in mind
>     that the device is an unintentional emitter and as such, subject to
>     conducted emissions limits below 30 MHz ONLY on the lines connected
>     to AC mains and subject to radiated emissions limits above 30 MHz. 
>       If the noise being conducted onto the AC mains is below the
>     limits, radiated noise below 30 MHz is legal unless it causes
>     harmful interference.  If it does, it is the responsibility of the
>     actual operator of the device to resolve the harmful interference.
>     The manufacturer is required only to meet authorization
>     requirements, test the design in a lab environment, have ongoing
>     production meet the limits as found in lab testing and to label the
>     equipment.
>      >
>      > Although I think that in the long run, their choosing a
>     case-by-case resolution will not work out well for them, I do note
>     that if every manufacturer of products responded to complaints with
>     full cooperation and even site visits by their engineers, we'd all
>     be pretty delighted, so keep this in mind if you have any need to
>     work with Solar Edge.
>      >
>      > Ed Hare, W1RFI
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > -----Original Message-----
>      > From: RFI [mailto:rfi-bounces at contesting.com
>     <mailto:rfi-bounces at contesting.com>] On Behalf Of Randy Standke
>      > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 2:44 AM
>      > To: 'Tony'; rfi at contesting.com <mailto:rfi at contesting.com>; 'Tony
>     Brock-Fisher'; Gruber, Mike W1MG
>      > Subject: Re: [RFI] Solar Panel RFI Video
>      >
>      > Most of the SolarEdge house rewire jobs I have had around me
>     solved the problem on the first attempt.  One took about four visits
>     before it was finally solved.  On that final visit an engineer from
>     SolarEdge came out.
>      > He discovered that they missed a couple of the optimizers.  Even
>     one unfiltered optimizer will cause RFI 100s of feet away.  So, keep
>     after them since they probably missed at least one optimizer.
>      >
>      > Randy KQ6RS
>      >
>      > -----Original Message-----
>      > From: RFI <rfi-bounces at contesting.com
>     <mailto:rfi-bounces at contesting.com>> On Behalf Of Tony
>      > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 6:17 PM
>      > To: rfi at contesting.com <mailto:rfi at contesting.com>; Tony
>     Brock-Fisher <barockteer at aol.com <mailto:barockteer at aol.com>>;
>     Gruber, Mike W1MG <mgruber at arrl.org <mailto:mgruber at arrl.org>>
>      > Subject: [RFI] Solar Panel RFI Video
>      >
>      > All:
>      >
>      > I recorded a short video that shows the type of solar panel RFI
>     I've been experiencing from my neighbors Solar Edge installation.
>     Solar Edge installed RFI suppression a few weeks ago which
>     unfortunately did little to reduce the level of interference. The
>     companies field engineer will be flying out to inspect the work the
>     installers did in the next week or two.
>      >
>      > I thought this might help others to recognize solar panel issues.
>      >
>      > See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiW758EyW_8
>      >
>      > Tony -K2MO
>      >
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