[RFI] Solar Panel RFI Video

Dave Cole (NK7Z) dave at nk7z.net
Mon Aug 13 18:28:02 EDT 2018


I have them here:

https://www.nk7z.net/rfi-snapshots/

Go to Solar, and select "Solar Edge".


73s and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Technical Specialist

On 08/13/2018 01:49 PM, Joe wrote:
> Someone had some nice videos or screen shots of SDR receivers showing 
> this noise when there is sun and gone when no sun. but I can not find 
> them anymore.
> 
> Anyone?
> 
> Joe WB9SBD
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> On 8/13/2018 12:12 PM, Mike Kirkland wrote:
>> Based on my personal experience I have to completely disagree with the
>> comments about solar edge.
>>
>> I have found solar edge to be completely unresponsive, completely
>> ineffective, and generally uncaring about the major amounts of rfi being
>> generated all across the country by their products.
>>
>> As for a solar edge engineer being several months late; hint - their not
>> coming.
>>
>> In my interference issue, solar city is the owner operator of the system,
>> not the home owner.
>>
>> At least solar edge was polite and professional in communications unlike
>> solar city's rude, personality offensive, asshole (it takes a lot of abuse
>> to get me to use that word publicly) approach.
>>
>> I believe all solar edge systems need to be shut down and only brought back
>> online when each system is proven to not cause interference.
>>
>> I think we need a class action law suit.
>>
>> I am coming up on my 3rd year of basically being wiped of the air!
>>
>>
>> On Aug 13, 2018 8:01 AM, "Dave Cole (NK7Z)"<dave at nk7z.net>  wrote:
>>
>> Ed,
>>
>> I agree completely!  Thank you for the reminder!  Solar Edge is treating
>> the Amateur community very well here.  Sending out engineers is far
>> beyond what most other companies are doing.
>>
>> 73s and thanks,
>> Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
>> https://www.nk7z.net
>> ARRL Technical Specialist
>>
>>
>> On 08/13/2018 07:41 AM, Hare, Ed  W1RFI wrote:
>>> We have found Solar Edge to be receptive and interested in resolving the
>> problems from their existing design.  Keep in mind that the device is an
>> unintentional emitter and as such, subject to conducted emissions limits
>> below 30 MHz ONLY on the lines connected to AC mains and subject to
>> radiated emissions limits above 30 MHz.   If the noise being conducted onto
>> the AC mains is below the limits, radiated noise below 30 MHz is legal
>> unless it causes harmful interference.  If it does, it is the
>> responsibility of the actual operator of the device to resolve the harmful
>> interference. The manufacturer is required only to meet authorization
>> requirements, test the design in a lab environment, have ongoing production
>> meet the limits as found in lab testing and to label the equipment.
>>> Although I think that in the long run, their choosing a case-by-case
>> resolution will not work out well for them, I do note that if every
>> manufacturer of products responded to complaints with full cooperation and
>> even site visits by their engineers, we'd all be pretty delighted, so keep
>> this in mind if you have any need to work with Solar Edge.
>>> Ed Hare, W1RFI
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RFI [mailto:rfi-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Randy Standke
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 2:44 AM
>>> To: 'Tony';rfi at contesting.com; 'Tony Brock-Fisher'; Gruber, Mike W1MG
>>> Subject: Re: [RFI] Solar Panel RFI Video
>>>
>>> Most of the SolarEdge house rewire jobs I have had around me solved the
>> problem on the first attempt.  One took about four visits before it was
>> finally solved.  On that final visit an engineer from SolarEdge came out.
>>> He discovered that they missed a couple of the optimizers.  Even one
>> unfiltered optimizer will cause RFI 100s of feet away.  So, keep after them
>> since they probably missed at least one optimizer.
>>> Randy KQ6RS
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RFI<rfi-bounces at contesting.com>  On Behalf Of Tony
>>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 6:17 PM
>>> To:rfi at contesting.com; Tony Brock-Fisher<barockteer at aol.com>; Gruber,
>> Mike W1MG<mgruber at arrl.org>
>>> Subject: [RFI] Solar Panel RFI Video
>>>
>>> All:
>>>
>>> I recorded a short video that shows the type of solar panel RFI I've been
>> experiencing from my neighbors Solar Edge installation. Solar Edge
>> installed RFI suppression a few weeks ago which unfortunately did little to
>> reduce the level of interference. The companies field engineer will be
>> flying out to inspect the work the installers did in the next week or two.
>>> I thought this might help others to recognize solar panel issues.
>>>
>>> See:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiW758EyW_8
>>>
>>> Tony -K2MO
>>>
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