[RFI] Tesla's Response to Solar Panel RFI

Gary gary_mayfield at hotmail.com
Sun Dec 15 21:11:30 EST 2019


Paul is a good guy  as is Ed Hare at the ARRL
http://www.arrl.org/edward-f-hare-jr

The league is working this issue pretty hard, but since the league is all of us (members anyway) we need to document what we come across in the way of RFI and work with our neighbors when we can.  Sharing that info with the league is a very good idea.

73,
Joe kk0sd



-----Original Message-----
From: RFI <rfi-bounces at contesting.com> On Behalf Of Dave Cole
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2019 7:17 PM
Cc: <Rfi at contesting.com> <rfi at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Tesla's Response to Solar Panel RFI

I have worked with Paul as well, he is good folk, and will assist...

Don't wait for RFI to find you, approach your ARRL Directors now... 
Bring up RFI, and ask for reports as to what is happening RFI wise at the ARRL.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 12/15/19 5:08 PM, Jamie WW3S wrote:
> I've had good luck contacting Paul W1VLF at the ARRL, I think he is 
> the new (relatively) RFI guy.  Paul started the case with Solar Edge, 
> and I was later contacted by TJ, a senior field engineer with Solar 
> Edge. Its my understanding TJ, and a couple of installers, visit 
> installation like my neighbors to retrofit them with updated 
> components. Now, a couple of flies in the ointment, it hasn't been 
> fixed....yet....parts were supposed to be ordered in mid August, with 
> a 10 week delivery time. That should have been early November but he 
> was involved with a service emergency in CA, due to the wildfires.  
> Also, Solar Edge is the vendor, not the retailer, so they (Green Solar 
> Tech) need to get involved.....now, the final fly, and one that 
> concerns me the most is I sent TJ a copy of the QST article from April 
> 2016, by Tony K1KP, that details the fix for Solar Edge systems, and 
> the response I received was "Yes, I'm familiar with the article, and 
> it is wrong".....so.....I'm still cautiously optimistic that this will 
> be resolved, but I'm concerned the method they will be using.....so 
> contact Paul at the ARRL (copy your director as well)...Paul is very 
> responsive and has the contacts with Solar Edge to get the process 
> started, and he has been up front during this whole process......Merry Christmas to all.....
> 
> 
> 
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Stan Zawrotny" <k4sbz.stan at gmail.com 
> <mailto:k4sbz.stan at gmail.com>>
> To: "Dave Cole" <dave at nk7z.net <mailto:dave at nk7z.net>>
> Cc: "<Rfi at contesting.com <mailto:Rfi at contesting.com>>" 
> <rfi at contesting.com <mailto:rfi at contesting.com>>
> Sent: 12/15/2019 5:59:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Tesla's Response to Solar Panel RFI
> 
>> Our "class action" vehicle, as was already pointed out, is the ARRL. 
>> As part of their charter to protect our spectrum and represent their 
>> members in all aspects of the hobby, they need to step up to the 
>> plate and take charge of the Solar RFI problem. They, in turn, need 
>> to (1) contact offending companies, and (2) pressure the FCC to 
>> become aware of the entire noise level problem and start enforcing 
>> their rules.
>> Stan, K4SBZ
>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 4:58 PM Dave Cole <dave at nk7z.net 
>> <mailto:dave at nk7z.net>> wrote:
>>> Hi Jim,
>>> Respectfully, in every case here but one, (and I have been involved 
>>> in maybe 10 to 15 in the past three years), the RFI from grow ops 
>>> were unheard on the AM band with a local station tuned in, and while 
>>> in front of the offending grow op.
>>> I am sure that in some cases it is hearable on an AM channel, but so 
>>> far here, (and I have expressly, checked at each location), I have 
>>> had very little luck with this. It is one of the first things I 
>>> check for, so I can involve the CE of the AM station being affected...
>>> 73, and thanks,
>>> Dave (NK7Z)
>>> https://www.nk7z.net
>>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>>> ARRL Technical Specialist
>>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources On 12/15/19 
>>> 11:26 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
>>> > On 12/15/2019 6:40 AM, Dave Cole wrote:
>>> >> The problem with that approach is that most AM stations are 
>>> >> strong enough to override RFI, in most locations, on the AM broadcast band.
>>> >
>>> > That's not even close to being true. More than 30 years ago, a
>>> colleague
>>> > who was Chief Engineer at WLS, a 50kW clear channel station 
>>> > licensed to Chicago with a transmitter site SW of the city center, 
>>> > found that his station could not be heard through the noise in 
>>> > Ford vehicles in the northern parts of the city. Noise conditions are FAR worse today.
>>> >
>>> > Growing up in WV in the '50s, our NBC radio affiliate was WLW, a 
>>> > 50kW clear channel station on 700 kHz, 125 miles away.
>>> >
>>> > 73, Jim K9YC
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