[RFI] RFI Digest, Vol 198, Issue 9

Tue Jul 16 00:31:21 EDT 2019

Jim Brown, what is a link to the ferrites from Arrow?
Randy ka4nma

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 5:04 PM <rfi-request at contesting.com> wrote:

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>    1. Re: Portables for sniffing RFI (Olli Tuppurainen)
>    2. Fair-Rite and Tariffs (Jim Brown)
>    3. Re: Fair-Rite and Tariffs (Richard F. DiDonna NN3W)
>    4. Re: Fair-Rite and Tariffs (chuck.gooden)
>    5. Re: Fair-Rite and Tariffs (Jim Brown)
>    6. Re: Fair-Rite and Tariffs (Dave Cole)
>    7. Re: Fair-Rite and Tariffs (Richard F. DiDonna NN3W)
>    8. Re: Fair-Rite and Tariffs (W0MU Mike Fatchett)
>    9. Re: Fair-Rite and Tariffs (Jim Brown)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 20:19:43 +0300
> From: Olli Tuppurainen <ollit at kapsi.fi>
> To: rfi at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Portables for sniffing RFI
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> I use this for RFI hunting in lower bands..
>
> http://www.jumaradio.com/JUMA-DFR1/JUMA-DFR1-Direction-Finder-Receiver.html
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> Olli
> OH6CT
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> Leonard Halvorsen via RFI kirjoitti 11.7.2019 klo 21.24:
> > What's the general consensus on good portable radios for use in
> > tracking-down RFI (and general listening)? I have heard the Tecsun-880
> is a
> > good performer. Any other recommendations???
> >
> > Leo H.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 12:57:09 -0700
> From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: towertalk reflector <towertalk at contesting.com>,     Rfi List
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> Subject: [RFI] Fair-Rite and Tariffs
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> I just bought 12 #43 toroids from Arrow Electronics, partly for
> research, but mostly to get free shipping on a small order. They shipped
> from the Netherlands, possibly to avoid tariffs. It is my understanding
> that this tactic is rather widely used. Bottom line -- if you're buying
> stuff like this, it's worth shopping around, especially with vendors
> with significant world-wide presence. I've found Arrow to be a
> particularly good vendor for relatively small purchases -- free shipping
> for web orders over $50 for anything in stock.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 15:59:43 -0400
> From: "Richard F. DiDonna NN3W" <richnn3w at gmail.com>
> To: rfi at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Fair-Rite and Tariffs
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> I would urge caution in discussing customs fraud publicly.....
>
> 73 Rich NN3W
>
> On 7/15/2019 3:57 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> > I just bought 12 #43 toroids from Arrow Electronics, partly for
> > research, but mostly to get free shipping on a small order. They
> > shipped from the Netherlands, possibly to avoid tariffs. It is my
> > understanding that this tactic is rather widely used. Bottom line --
> > if you're buying stuff like this, it's worth shopping around,
> > especially with vendors with significant world-wide presence. I've
> > found Arrow to be a particularly good vendor for relatively small
> > purchases -- free shipping for web orders over $50 for anything in stock.
> >
> > 73, Jim K9YC
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 15:12:27 -0500
> From: "chuck.gooden" <chuck.gooden at comcast.net>
> To: jim at audiosystemsgroup.com, towertalk reflector
>         <towertalk at contesting.com>, Rfi List <rfi at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Fair-Rite and Tariffs
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> I received 25 #31 Fair-Rite snapons from digikey and was charged 6.65
> tariff on an order of ~$65 plus tax and shipping to make ~$83 total
> order.Chuck K9LC
> -------- Original message --------From: Jim Brown <
> jim at audiosystemsgroup.com> Date: 7/15/19  2:57 PM  (GMT-06:00) To:
> towertalk reflector <towertalk at contesting.com>, Rfi List <
> rfi at contesting.com> Subject: [RFI] Fair-Rite and Tariffs I just bought 12
> #43 toroids from Arrow Electronics, partly for research, but mostly to get
> free shipping on a small order. They shipped from the Netherlands, possibly
> to avoid tariffs. It is my understanding that this tactic is rather widely
> used. Bottom line -- if you're buying stuff like this, it's worth shopping
> around, especially with vendors with significant world-wide presence. I've
> found Arrow to be a particularly good vendor for relatively small purchases
> -- free shipping for web orders over $50 for anything in stock.73, Jim
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 13:19:27 -0700
> From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: rfi at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Fair-Rite and Tariffs
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> Huh?? MANY manufacturers, distributors, and businesses of all sorts have
> had to scramble to stay in business. According to the analysis I've
> seen, their methods are legal.? Arrow is a publicly traded company and
> has been for many years, ARW on the NY Stock Exchange.? Like Farnell
> (Newark in the US), they have a large international presence.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
> On 7/15/2019 12:59 PM, Richard F. DiDonna NN3W wrote:
> > I would urge caution in discussing customs fraud publicly.....
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 13:20:57 -0700
> From: Dave Cole <dave at nk7z.net>
> To: rfi at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Fair-Rite and Tariffs
> Message-ID: <29955197-feee-04bb-4ae3-1d76ab90ce3c at nk7z.net>
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> Wow Jim, they used to only give free shipping on 99 bucks or over!  Nice
> to see under that now...
>
> Arrow has been my goto vendor for ferrite material for a bit now...
> Very happy with them.
>
> On 7/15/19 12:57 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> > I just bought 12 #43 toroids from Arrow Electronics, partly for
> > research, but mostly to get free shipping on a small order. They shipped
> > from the Netherlands, possibly to avoid tariffs. It is my understanding
> > that this tactic is rather widely used. Bottom line -- if you're buying
> > stuff like this, it's worth shopping around, especially with vendors
> > with significant world-wide presence. I've found Arrow to be a
> > particularly good vendor for relatively small purchases -- free shipping
> > for web orders over $50 for anything in stock.
> >
> > 73, Jim K9YC
> >
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>
> --
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Technical Specialist
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 16:56:23 -0400
> From: "Richard F. DiDonna NN3W" <richnn3w at gmail.com>
> To: rfi at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Fair-Rite and Tariffs
> Message-ID: <605e0433-b562-c94b-aae5-80793155ef0c at gmail.com>
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> When we discuss legality, we should be careful.? If a product is
> manufactured in China, and shipped to the Netherlands, and then simply
> resold to the United States, you have -not- changed the country of
> origin of the good.? That is Customs Law 101.? Duties and taxes
> (including Section 301 duties) are based upon the country of origin of
> the good.? If you are telling me that the goods are Dutch in origin
> (i.e., they were manufactured in the Netherlands), then there is no
> issue.? However, when you state that the product was simply "shipped
> from the Netherlands" and that "this tactic is rather widely used", it
> smells of a circumvention scheme.
>
> And I could care less if a company is publicly traded.? I have seen
> enough custom fraud from some S&P 100 companies to make you question why
> certain of their divisional vice presidents are not in jail for extended
> periods of time.
>
> 73 Rich NN3W
>
> On 7/15/2019 4:19 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> > Huh? MANY manufacturers, distributors, and businesses of all sorts
> > have had to scramble to stay in business. According to the analysis
> > I've seen, their methods are legal.? Arrow is a publicly traded
> > company and has been for many years, ARW on the NY Stock Exchange.?
> > Like Farnell (Newark in the US), they have a large international
> > presence.
> >
> > 73, Jim K9YC
> >
> > On 7/15/2019 12:59 PM, Richard F. DiDonna NN3W wrote:
> >> I would urge caution in discussing customs fraud publicly.....
> >
> >
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 15:03:08 -0600
> From: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com>
> To: rfi at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Fair-Rite and Tariffs
> Message-ID: <b8d772fd-f766-ebfe-483f-55e43b3280dd at w0mu.com>
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> And this has zero to do with RFI.
>
> On 7/15/2019 2:56 PM, Richard F. DiDonna NN3W wrote:
> > When we discuss legality, we should be careful.? If a product is
> > manufactured in China, and shipped to the Netherlands, and then simply
> > resold to the United States, you have -not- changed the country of
> > origin of the good.? That is Customs Law 101.? Duties and taxes
> > (including Section 301 duties) are based upon the country of origin of
> > the good.? If you are telling me that the goods are Dutch in origin
> > (i.e., they were manufactured in the Netherlands), then there is no
> > issue.? However, when you state that the product was simply "shipped
> > from the Netherlands" and that "this tactic is rather widely used", it
> > smells of a circumvention scheme.
> >
> > And I could care less if a company is publicly traded.? I have seen
> > enough custom fraud from some S&P 100 companies to make you question
> > why certain of their divisional vice presidents are not in jail for
> > extended periods of time.
> >
> > 73 Rich NN3W
> >
> > On 7/15/2019 4:19 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> >> Huh? MANY manufacturers, distributors, and businesses of all sorts
> >> have had to scramble to stay in business. According to the analysis
> >> I've seen, their methods are legal.? Arrow is a publicly traded
> >> company and has been for many years, ARW on the NY Stock Exchange.?
> >> Like Farnell (Newark in the US), they have a large international
> >> presence.
> >>
> >> 73, Jim K9YC
> >>
> >> On 7/15/2019 12:59 PM, Richard F. DiDonna NN3W wrote:
> >>> I would urge caution in discussing customs fraud publicly.....
> >>
> >>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 14:03:47 -0700
> From: Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: rfi at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Fair-Rite and Tariffs
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> On 7/15/2019 1:56 PM, Richard F. DiDonna NN3W wrote:
> > That is Customs Law 101.
>
> I'll leave that to attorneys with espertise in that area.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
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