[RFI] The ARRL Contest Update for April 1, 2020

AA5CT jwin95 at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 1 19:15:03 EDT 2020

The answer, Lloyd, appears to be definitively "no". I think the phenom had
the OFCOM boys stumped. The link by Ed Hare lead to more links that 
shed light on the physics (but, you will have to get your browser to xlate
the German text, or read the native German yourself. A Chrome lookalike
browser with built-in xlate worked for me)

de AA5CT Jim


     On Wednesday, April 1, 2020, 03:23:52 PM GMT-5, Lloyd - N9LB <lloydberg at tds.net> wrote:  
 I've recently discovered a new type of "Antique String Filament" LED bulbs
in the local stores, the internal string of many LEDs are coated with
yellow/orange phosphor to give off that "antique warm glow":

Just go to Amazon and search on:  "LED-Bulbs-Antique-Replica-Style-Light"

Maybe they are of this type?


Lloyd - N9LB

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Can incandescent light bulbs cause interference? | EMC and Regulatory
Recently the European market surveillance authorities (AdCos) on EMC have
been investigating the potential of incandescent light bulbs to cause radio
interference. The investigation began with reports that some incandescent
lights may be the cause of reported interference to FM broadcast reception.
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One may, if interested, check the OFCOM website link I posted earlier and
note that picture posted is indeed an incandescent bulb.

I still have questions related to how the device produced EMI in the 119 MHz
range as indicated on the spectrum analyzer display as can be seen on the
same page.

There may have been un-intentional contact between elements within the bulb
AS this "old timey" bulb used a string (versus a coiled element) of
(presumed) Tungsten suspended from multiple 'hangers' or supports inside the
bulb. Note the hangers top and bottom share common placement within glass
top and bottom respectively. The bulb in the pix has a 'stamp' on the base
of 240V, assuming AC operation, the peak voltage on a circuit of that nature
reaches approx 340 V pk.

The question of whether a vacuum or an inert gas (as is used nowadays)
filled the bulb envelope also remains unanswered.

de AA5CT Jim

On Wednesday, April 1, 2020, 1:06:30 PM GMT-5, Michael Germino
<ad6aa at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

"Vintage" A modern bulb made to look vintage or "steampunk" may not have
been  Incandescent. Probably a "steampunk led bulb".
Mike73, AD6AA

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  On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:44 AM, Rob Atkinson<ranchorobbo at gmail.com> wrote:
Sadly, the qrznow article covered everything except what is really
interesting:  the mode by which the seemingly incandescent "vintage"
bulbs radiated RFI.


Vintage light bulbs were the ultimate cause of interference to aircraft
communications in the Glasgow, Scotland airport area, but finding it made an
interesting story on QRZnow.com. Four bulbs were all it took to be a real
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