[RFI] QUESTION

[Gedas]

I would also disconnect the 75-ohm coax that connects up to the modem if 
you have BB service as that line is hot with all kinds of RF.

Gedas, W8BYA EN70JT

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On 12/23/2020 1:28 PM, Eddie Edwards wrote:
> As Jamie, WW3S pointed out with the Telephone/cable-modem UPS as RFI Sources even when AC power is turned off at the main breaker panel, some other home UPS units for computers or any smart appliances are also possible sources as they have back-up batteries converting DC to AC power.  Just killing AC power may no longer eliminate our homes as a possible RFI source.
>
> 73, de ed -K0iL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RFI <rfi-bounces+eddieedwards=centurylink.net at contesting.com> On Behalf Of WW3S
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 17:00
> To: donovanf at erols.com
> Cc: rfi at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] QUESTION
>
> One caveat to kill all the breakers....if you have phone service along with cable tv, you probably have a battery backup in your modem to provide phone service in the event of a power outage....that may be one of your sources of local rfi, and you may spend weeks trying to track it down outside your home, when it really is just sitting on a desk in the home office .....cable company changed out old modem for new one....at least for now, the rfi from my home is gone, but the other 110+ homes in the subdivision, that’s a different story....
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Dec 22, 2020, at 4:53 PM, donovanf at erols.com wrote:
>>
>> Hi Gary,
>>
>>
>> The process for identifying this type of RFI is the same as for any
>> other RFI, except you need to use your transmitter to excite the RFI generating source.
>>
>>
>>
>> First verify that the RFI is not coming from your own home
>>
>>
>> - kill all of the circuit breakers in your home and power up ONLY your
>> transmitter. All accessories should be DISCONNECTED from AC power. You
>> may need to use your amplifier to produce enough RF to trigger raspy
>> harmonics from RFI generating source.
>>
>>
>> - Put your transmitter on the air, keying it from a memory keyer is a
>> good approach
>>
>> - if the raspy harmonics have gone away, start turning on the circuit
>> breakers in your home, one by one, until the raspy harmonics reappear.
>>
>>
>> If you determine that the RFI is not being generated in your own home,
>> turn your directive antenna in the direction that produces the
>> strongest raspy harmonics. A sensitive spectrum display such as the
>> Elecraft P3 helps immensely.
>>
>>
>> Then use a portable receiver to hunt for the RFI source along the line
>> of bearing identified by the previous step.
>>
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>>
>> 73
>> Frank
>> W3LPL
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Gary Johnson" <gwj at wb9jps.com>
>> To: rfi at contesting.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 12:48:16 AM
>> Subject: [RFI] QUESTION
>>
>> That’s easy. RF is picked up on the AC lines then enters any nonlinear device plugged into those lines, such as a walk wart. There, RF is rectified, harmonics are generated, and that’s mixed with all the garbage on the power line, then re-radiated via conducted emissions. Many harmonics are normally expected. This is the classic problem for any SO2R or M/M station.
>>
>> Case study: At 8P5A, Tom has very little ancillary stuff plugged in and yet he had your problem. He traced it to a single LED light. Once removed, the harmonic garbage disappeared.
>>
>> Gary Johnson NA6O
>> gwj at wb9jps.com
>>
>>> On Dec 21, 2020, at 4:06 PM, rfi-request at contesting.com wrote:
>>>
>>> From: David Eckhardt <davearea51a at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [RFI] QUESTION
>>>
>>> I'm out of ideas on this one! Where does the raspy modulation come
>>> from on the harmonics which changes with position in my radio room on
>>> a battery operated receiver?
>>>
>>> Situation:
>>>
>>> transmit on 7.010 MHz
>>> receive on second harmonic, 14.020
>>>
>>> transmitter: IC-7300
>>> receiver: IC-7610
>>> and reversed
>>> Demod: CW or SSB (or AM, for that matter)
>>>
>>> Fundamental sounds clean. Second harmonic sounds modulated by 120-Hz
>>> (and a few harmonics of the line) and quite raspy - pretty awful.
>>>
>>> Receiver: portable battery operated receiver (Grundig G3) with same
>>> transmitters: I can walk around the room tuned to the second harmonic
>>> and find places in the room where things are clean and other
>>> positions where the second harmonic (and third) sound awful with 120
>>> Hz raspy 'modulation'. Any idea how I can account for this localized
>>> behavior? I'm out of theories.
>>>
>>> Dave - W?LEV
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