[RFI] Arc-fault breakers

Grant Saviers grants2 at pacbell.net
Sun Feb 23 12:58:49 EST 2020


Having replaced more than a dozen of failed GFCI duplex outlets, I think 
they are junk.  Installed outside, forget about it. Sometimes an 
electrician gets very creative to save $27, odd circuits connected to 
GFCI 20a output. Circuit breakers placed in random wall outlets can be a 
real PITA to find why some light or outlet isn't working.

Haven't had a GFCI breaker fail.

Grant KZ1W

On 2/23/2020 06:06, krgoodwin at comcast.net wrote:
> When I discussed changing out my circuit breaker box with arc-fault circuit
> breakers with a licensed electrician, he suggested installing arc-fault/GFCI
> outlets instead.  The arc-fault circuit breakers are expensive and may
> require an entirely new circuit breaker panel since installation is not
> straight forward in an older CB panel.  At my local big box store, Leviton
> 15 Amp AFCI/GFCI outlets are $27 (20 Amp $28) and wired similar to GFCI
> outlets so a circuit could be chained to dumb outlets as would be the case
> in a normal GFCI wiring scheme.   Of course, this may not satisfy the local
> building codes but I would grant a waiver if asked.  On the other side,
> house insurance policies are pushing to have older circuit breaker panels
> replaced which would infer installing AFCI/GFCI breakers.  I did notice on
> new houses in this area, not all circuits are AFCI/GFCI protected and I
> don't know which circuits are necessary.  I would protect ALL circuits in a
> house especially if AFCI were the intended goal.  Ken K5RG
> 
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