[RFI] 160/80 meter noise; better RX antenna (Horz Waller Flag demo link)

Sun Feb 23 20:47:20 EST 2020

All I can say is WOW!  No room on a tiny suburban lot here, but sure interesting.

I have a friend who has designed a mount system for Don's Portable Terminated Flag DF antenna and I passed that info to Don tonight.

73 de Mac, K2GKK/5
Since 30 Nov 1953
Oklahoma City, OK
USAF, Retired ('61-'81)
FAA, Retired ('94-'10)

Cell: 405-642-7337

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From: AA5CT <jwin95 at yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 15:46
To: Don Kirk <wd8dsb at gmail.com>; Dave Cole <dave at nk7z.net>; D C _Mac_ Macdonald <k2gkk at hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFI] 160/80 meter noise; better RX antenna (Horz Waller Flag demo link)

Mac,

Here is a presentation they put together awhile back:

https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kkn.net%2Fdayton2011%2FN4ISWallerFlag.pdf&data=02%7C01%7C%7C9ad36a32eda9494e28c008d7b8a9e947%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637180912201799539&sdata=rwAv5bDpJbclGZLZm4a8%2FSeQEQvbCPNWVUdew475fpU%3D&reserved=0

Particular attention has to be paid to the xmission line used
between the two 'flags' and such that 'things' remain
balanced until after the preamps.

73, de AA5CT Jim

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On Sunday, February 23, 2020, 3:02:48 PM GMT-6, D C _Mac_ Macdonald <k2gkk at hotmail.com> wrote:

Very interesting demo, Jim, but what I was looking for is info on the Waller antennas  themselves.

73 de Mac, K2GKK/5
Since 30 Nov 1953
Oklahoma City, OK
USAF, Retired ('61-'81)
FAA, Retired ('94-'10)

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From: AA5CT <jwin95 at yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 14:52
To: Don Kirk <wd8dsb at gmail.com>; Dave Cole <dave at nk7z.net>; D C _Mac_ Macdonald <k2gkk at hotmail.com>
Cc: rfi at contesting.com <rfi at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] 160/80 meter noise; better RX antenna (Horz Waller Flag demo link)

Sure thing, Mac.

BTW, I had to view this several times to get full impact of what Jose
was saying and showing, but, it is a good showing of what the Horz
Waller Flag can do to (manmade power line) noise.

https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DdNBekvzlxgM&data=02%7C01%7C%7C9ad36a32eda9494e28c008d7b8a9e947%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637180912201799539&sdata=bLlMBT5PXEdlwazcbKL9jJZhRAydyiTwdwzWAqcmLsg%3D&reserved=0

I think what this demonstrates is how line noise sources that
are on the order of 1/2 to several miles away are still factors
when receiving weak DX signals. In quiet conditions his V
and H Waller Flag would be equal in rx sensitivity, maybe with
V a little stronger, but, it is ALL about the S to N ratio and
a horizontal Waller Flag delivers a better SNR to the receiver,
as observed.

73, de AA5CT Jim

On Sunday, February 23, 2020, 1:02:38 PM GMT-6, D C _Mac_ Macdonald <k2gkk at hotmail.com> wrote:

How about a link to that "Waller Flag" item?

73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
Since 30 Nov 53)
Oklahoma City, OK
USAF, Retired (61-81)
FAA, Retired (94-10)