[RFI] Another Solar Panel Interference Case

Tue Apr 5 14:27:34 EDT 2022

If the FCC had nipped this problem in the beginning, we would not be where
we are today.  That was the time when FCC still had budget and manpower to
perform their functions.  They still did very little to prevent the
problems the digital revolution has precipitated.  With the present
situation, why even have Part 15 or (mostly) the rest of CFR47?

At present, FCC is freeloading off ARRL for investigations into solar RFI
complaints by amateurs.  That WAS (at one time) one of the tasks for which
FCC was responsible and, on paper, still is.  All of us ARRL members pay
for that service which is chartered to the FCC.

Dave - WØLEV

On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 5:55 PM Steve Dyer W1SRD via RFI <rfi at contesting.com>
wrote:

> Here is where the FCC is:
> https://www.tvtechnology.com/news/fcc-requests-budget-increase
> The FCC has 1550 employees to manage all the spectrum issues for a
> country of 330,000,000 citizens and a GDP of $21,000,000,000,000 (that's
> trillions).
> Verizon alone has 130,000 employees. AT&T has 200,000.
> For comparison, the FCC budget request is .05% of the defense budget
> request.
> AT&T, Verizon, Charter and T-Mobile spent $107M in lobbying in 2020.
> Perhaps most telling is this graph of FCC headcount 1983-2016.
> https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-331835A1.pdf
> I would say we are getting the level of service and outcomes we are
> paying for.
> 73,
> Steve
> W1SRD
> > And the "official" reply from FCC to the impacted (RFI) coverage areas
> for
> > AM BC, "Increase your output power."  Sure.....Yea......That costs the
> BCer
> > money both for a new transmitter and continuing additional fees to pay
> the
> > electric bill.
> >
> > Yes, where is the FCC??
> >
> > Dave - WØLEV
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 3:24 PM EDWARDS, EDDIE J via RFI <
> rfi at contesting.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I've only seen RFI mentioned in passing a few times in Radio World a
> >> broadcast magazine.  Doesn't seem to be an issue for broadcasters
> typically
> >> operating from 5,000 watts to 50,000 watts.
> >>
> >> If you think about it, it's not going to be much of an issue to local AM
> >> broadcasters who are using very strong local transmissions on ground
> wave
> >> to the receivers.  They may only lose fringe or rural area listeners,
> and
> >> only if those listeners get solar systems.  Compare that to amateur
> radio
> >> operators running only 100 watts (typical) or less or rarely up to
> >> 1,500watts (max) transmitting through the ionosphere once or multiple
> times
> >> with 40-70db or more of loss and requiring highly sensitive receivers to
> >> pick up the weak signals.
> >>
> >> Most AM broadcasters won't be affected much at all with minimal loss of
> >> listeners.  But Amateur Radio will be.
> >>
> >> 73, de ed -K0iL
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: RFI <rfi-bounces+eedwards=oppd.com at contesting.com> On Behalf Of
> >> bill steffey
> >> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 7:20 PM
> >> To: Rfi List <rfi at contesting.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [RFI] Another Solar Panel Interference Case
> >>
> >>
> >> not having a BAD solar System, but a good one , I wonder what happens to
> >> receiving AM broadcasting ?????
> >>
> >> The AM broadcaster is a guy with a commercial license, a big investment
> >> AND THE PROFIT MOTIVE destroyed by interference.
> >>
> >>
> >> Where o'  where did the FCC go????
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 4/4/2022 7:59 PM, Hare, Ed, W1RFI wrote:
> >>> Get these reports to Steve Anderson, W1EMI at arrl.org, or rfi at arrl.org.
> >> The more we bring these to the involved companies, the more they will
> do to
> >> try to improve future designs.
> >>> Ed, W1RFI
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: RFI <rfi-bounces+w1rfi=arrl.org at contesting.com> On Behalf Of
> >>> Tony
> >>> Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 7:44 PM
> >>> To: Rfi List <rfi at contesting.com>
> >>> Subject: [RFI] Another Solar Panel Interference Case
> >>>
> >>> All:
> >>>
> >>> Just received word from yet another ham who is experiencing solar panel
> >> RFI. Jeff, KD2SCR said he recently became a new ham and noticed that his
> >> home solar system was causing interference. The system is made by Solar
> >> Edge so no surprise there.
> >>> I continue to hear from hams both here and abroad and there is no doubt
> >> in my mind that wide-spread solar panel interference will not only
> >> discourage new hams, but it will kill HF radio for the majority us --
> >> especially those living in cities and suburbs where home solar saturates
> >> these areas.
> >>> See Jeff's comments below.
> >>>
> >>> Tony -K2MO
> >>>
> >>> /Hello, //
> >>> /
> >>> /
> >>> /
> >>> /I just saw your videos on YT on interference from solar panels.
> >>> notable from the neighbors solar city install with solar edge
> >>> equipment. I also have solar city with solar edge equipment and 3
> >>> weeks ago I got my General license and a new Yaesu FTDX10./ / / /The
> >>> only band I can transmit on is 40m. but not very far, like ct and va
> >>> and I'm in new jersey. Wondering if this was ever resolved as your
> >>> videos are 2 years old ?/ / / /73//thanks! Jeff KD2SCR. // /
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> RFI mailing list
> >>> RFI at contesting.com
> >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listin
> >>> fo/rfi__;!!AvPafw!dxGg2ifZCN7xSodVZsBtQEydRbQDN5J_ybzoVIpI786A6mOsqR0v
> >>> 2_S-AEe6EA$ _______________________________________________
> >>> RFI mailing list
> >>> RFI at contesting.com
> >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listin
> >>> fo/rfi__;!!AvPafw!dxGg2ifZCN7xSodVZsBtQEydRbQDN5J_ybzoVIpI786A6mOsqR0v
> >>> 2_S-AEe6EA$
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> RFI mailing list
> >> RFI at contesting.com
> >>
> >>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/rfi__;!!AvPafw!dxGg2ifZCN7xSodVZsBtQEydRbQDN5J_ybzoVIpI786A6mOsqR0v2_S-AEe6EA$
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> RFI mailing list
> >> RFI at contesting.com
> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/rfi
> >>
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> RFI mailing list
> RFI at contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/rfi
>

-- 
*Dave - WØLEV*
*Just Let Darwin Work*