[RFI] Fwd: RFI Digest, Vol 241, Issue 20
Steve Dyer W1SRD
w1srd at yahoo.com
Tue Feb 14 15:05:54 EST 2023
Great article. Thanks for posting.
I need to move further out into the sticks. My problem is noise from my
neighbors, not my house...
GL on the new system.
73,
Steve
W1SRD
On 2/14/2023 11:52 AM, Steve London wrote:
> I am very concerned about RFI from any new HVAC systems manufactured
> and installed since new energy savings codes went into effect in
> mid-2019.
>
> For examples of modern, RF-noisy HVAC systems, and possible
> mitigations, see
> https://viennawireless.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/HILLSON_RFI_PDF_3SEP2021.pdf
> .
>
> As you say, yours was installed in 2013.
>
> My current furnace was installed in 2004. Single speed, no ECM. Yes,
> the fan draws 800 watts when it's running. Nearing end-of-life, so I'm
> carefully shopping.
>
> 73,
> Steve, N2IC
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 12:37 PM Steve Dyer W1SRD via RFI
> <rfi at contesting.com> wrote:
>
> Steve,
> I guess you don't believe and want some evidence.
> I have the Bryant Evolution Extreme (equivalent system to the Carrier
> Infinity Greenspeed) and it is RF quiet. It was one of the
> conditions of
> purchase I made with the installer. Both the air handler and
> compressor
> are VS.
> This is a 2013 vintage system so I have a few thousand hours in
> front of
> the radio with the system on and off.
> I live in a rural location so it's not masked by local noise. The
> beams
> are within 100'.
> I can stand right next to the outdoor unit with a SW radio and barely
> hear anything.
> I am extremely pleased with the systems lack of RFI, efficiency
> and home
> comfort.
> Variable speed systems can be engineered well for EMC.
> 73,
> Steve
> W1SRD
>
> On 2/14/2023 11:17 AM, Steve London wrote:
> > Better yet, show us spectrum displays of about 100 kHz width, on
> the band
> > with the closest antenna, when the band is dead, with the fan
> running, and
> > with the fan off.
> >
> > 73,
> > Steve, N2IC
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 12:05 PM James Jordan <k4qpl2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I have a Carrier "Infinity" system with fully VS drives on both the
> >> compressor and air handler fan. It's their top of the line most
> efficient
> >> system. Never heard a peep of RFI from it. I'll walk closer to
> the units
> >> with an AM radio to see if I'm missing something and if I hear
> anything
> >> I'll post again.
> >> 73,
> >> Jim K4QPL
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 12:57 PM Dennis Monticelli <
> >> dennis.monticelli at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The variable speed fan motors are bad news. Fixed speed or
> multiple
> >> fixed
> >>> speed (selected by winding) are fine. However the fan motor
> isn't the
> >> only
> >>> motor in the system. Look into the compressor too. There is
> also a
> >> lesser
> >>> chance that the controller board generates noise you can pick
> up. If
> >>> accessible during installation, some ferrite sleeves on the
> digital
> >> board's
> >>> wires are a good idea.
> >>>
> >>> Both of my Daikin HVAC units are completely quiet but those
> models were
> >>> chosen with no PWM drive motors and I did put ferrites on the
> controller
> >>> board for extra insurance.
> >>>
> >>> Dennis AE6C
> >>>
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> >>> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2023 04:54:07 +0000 (UTC)
> >>> From: RVZ <rlvz at aol.com>
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> >>> Hi Guys,
> >>> ?I've seen posts where some Air Conditioners and Furnace units
> with
> >>> variable speed motors create RFI on the Ham Bands.? I'm
> thinking of
> >>> purchasing a new Carrier 3.5 ton Heat Pump, Model 25SCA542,
> with a "fixed
> >>> speed" blower and am wondering if anyone has had RFI issues with
> >>> these??Thank You in advance for your thoughts.?73, Dick- K9OM? (
> >>> RLVZ at aol.com
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