[RFI] Interesting...

David Colburn qrv at kd4e.com
Wed Jan 1 15:19:39 EST 2025


I did an Internet Search using duckduckgo (google/alphabet is just 
another search engine).

Looks like the nuke connect deal is a mess ...

https://www.utilitydive.com/news/ferc-interconnection-isa-talen-amazon-data-center-susquehanna-exelon/731841/

On 12/30/24 20:39, Gene Smar via RFI wrote:
> Amazon announced it planned to purchase an existing 2.5 GW nuclear generating station to power a planned data center. Check out Susquehanna Amazon Talen Energy in Google.
> 73 de Gene Smar AD3F
> Sent from my Radio Shack TRS-80 model 100 laptop
>   
>    On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 6:11 PM, Ed Edwards - K0iL via RFI<rfi at contesting.com> wrote:   Other articles this year point out the power generation load problem is
> going to be the limiting factor in what AI can and cannot do.  This once
> from Pop Sci covered the lack of generation for the AI power load needs.
>
> https://www.popsci.com/environment/three-mile-island-ai-microsoft/?fbclid=Iw
> Y2xjawHgA0NleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHYYZGpHVeYTz0lirZ8GSG3VvWma5uRlX4ZwEQ1zfC4UD5KM6
> rhS0bbeqMA_aem_xAEGln8CJANexEThwMhEOQ
>
> An article in IEEE Spectrum was a fictional story that described turning
> once of  the planets like mercury into a massive power generating facility
> so that AI could have enough computing power supplied.  Some apparently
> think the generation needed will be the limiting factor.  It will be if they
> think wind and solar will meet AI's power needs.
>
> 73, de ed -K0iL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RFI <rfi-bounces+eddieedwards=centurylink.net at contesting.com> On
> Behalf Of Jim Brown
> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2024 00:06
>
> On 12/29/2024 6:43 PM, William Kim . wrote:
>> This is interesting.  We (our utility) keep an eye on loads and distortion
> caused by loads.  There are restrictions.
>
> The link seems to be "technobabble" from a reporter who didn't understand
> most of what someone (or multiple someones) told him.
>
> Power systems all over the world have been plagued with highly distorted
> load currents for decades, ever since electronic loads have become a very
> large fraction of the load on our power systems. Virtually all the load
> current flows at positive and negative peaks of the sine wave, causing very
> high levels of distortion. To make matters much worse, triplen harmonics
> (those whose harmonic number is divisible by three) from load currents ADD
> in the neutral in three phase systems, and leakage currents add in the
> protective earth. I addressed all of this about 20 years ago in this "White
> Paper for contractors installing large audio and video systems for public
> buildings.
>
> What is far more concerning about these data centers is the sheer magnitude
> of their loads, and added demands it places on power systems, cooling
> systems and the loads they place on the environment, and so on.
> I've seen a lot of more intelligent and better informed reporting on on
> these very real issues in the mainstream press.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
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