[RSM] Fwd: Arachnid

[Tom Haavisto]

What I have found from here is that a 20 meter antenna around 40-50 feet
high will do VERY well into the east coast.  The lower height gives it a
slightly higher takeoff angle, with the first hop landing in the east
coast.  Granted, I run high power, but have had more than a few reports of
being VERY loud, which I attribute in part due to the higher takeoff
angle.  I don't get the same reaction to my (larger) 20 meter beam at 120
feet when its pointed in the same direction.  Others here in Thunder Bay
have seen the same thing.  The higher antenna works better into the west
coast.


When I was building my 80 meter 4-square, I found I could work EU with a KW
and one vertical.  Much easier now with the 4 square.  It was interesting
listening to stations in eastern Ontario ragchewing with EU when they were
running 100 watts into an inverted vee at 50 feet.


The point being - for us, we are at a huge disadvantage working EU compared
to folks in eastern Ontario, regardless of antenna height.  I figure we can
make up for it by working lots of East coast stations in domestic contests
on the high bands.  In the SS, I work the "close in" states on 40-80 meters.

My suggestion would be to build antennas that will maximize that advantage.

Tom - VE3CX




On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Gord Kosmenko <gord.kosmenko at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Good Morning All,
>
> Arachnid, cognoscenti - not sure if I can hang with folks that have
> these advanced word smithing. Oops, that's two nouns, word smithing?
>
> Now for some verbiage;
>
> - Spiderbeam seems to have  great fans in the DX HF world, given it
>   is the go-to antenna for many dxpeditions and small garden installations
>
> - here in Western Canada height (IMHO) is the the big dog to antenna
> performance
>   more so than antenna gain
>
> - height from here also applies to SS as the large QSO wells are in the
> 2000 kM region
>   which requires getting the antenna's main lobe (the gain lobe), takeoff
> angle in the
>   20 to 30 degree region
>
> - another SS advantage is ensure your call sign has a VE4 in it and
> participate in SS CW
>
> - Agree, a 40 foot pole structure coupled to a Spiderbeam is a step up from
> low dipoles
>   and any vertical antenna for 20M and above
>
> Goosh - hope I don't have any spelling or grammer mistakes or I am going to
> get banned from the list (just kidding folks).
>
> Get on the bands and enjoy them.HF is not dead. Here's a tidbit, everyday
> (24 hour period) when connected to VE7CC cluster (with Skimmer enabled) it
> reports to me an
> average of 30,000 to 35,000  spots here - would you say HF is not dead?
>
> 73, Gord VE6SV
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Kelly Taylor <ve4xt at mymts.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > > From: Kelly Taylor <ve4xt at mymts.net>
> > > Date: August 4, 2017 at 21:08:08 CDT
> > > To: ve4dxr at shaw.ca
> > > Subject: Arachnid
> > >
> > > Hi Leor,
> > >
> > > Hope you're having a great summer on that new boat of yours.
> > >
> > > Let me run this idea by you: for about the price of nothing more than a
> > big chunk of concrete, I could get a 47-foot aluminum mast and
> Spiderbeam.
> > >
> > > 47 feet would put it at an insignificantly different height than I
> could
> > get from my Delhi.
> > >
> > > Main interest is having something for SS this year. Putting this out to
> > the RSM cognoscenti, as well. Thoughts?
> > >
> > > 73, kelly, ve4xt
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
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