[RSM] RSM Digest, Vol 4, Issue 16

Jack vhfplus at gmail.com
Wed Feb 1 06:05:14 EST 2017


Hi, Tom:

When we were in Nevada we had a single 580-foot Beverage oriented at 75 
degrees, which is the only one our property size/orientation would 
permit. It was amazing. The transmit antenna was a 65-foot vertical, 
top-loaded with sloping tee wires and that worked quite well with 16 
quarter-wave radials.

The thing that concerns me is our antenna is very, very, poor on 160 
(not too good on 80, either) and I don't know what can be done to help, 
given zero resources in terms of real estate. Apartment dwelling and 
Topband are not compatible. I envy Cary for having a city lot with which 
he can work. :>)

Given where the sunspot cycle is going, I would love to be able to 
finish 80-meter DXCC (for 5BDXCC) and see how close I can get on 160 but 
I honestly don't know how that can be accomplished.

I have ON4UN's book, which has been an invaluable resource over the 
years, and will have to go through John's section on shortened 
verticals  and see if there a "eureka" moment. Other folks, like N6RK, 
have published articles or given presentations on loaded verticals which 
might help, as well.

We'll keep trying.

73,

Jack, VE4SNA/W6NF


On 1/31/2017 10:38 PM, Tom Haavisto wrote:
> Hi Jack
>
> As a long time 160 op, there are a few things that might explain what 
> you are seeing.  Some stations hear VERY well, and others - not so much.
>
> Some stations use directional receive arrays.  A few years ago, KV4FZ 
> was 40 over 9, and I called him many times, as well as a number of 
> other NA stations.  He was deaf as a post hearing NA - he was busy 
> working EU.  Later on, he was like S5.  One call, and he was in the 
> log.  He has a number of beverages, and depending on which way he was 
> listening, he could hear very well - or - be deaf as a post.
>
> The same applies to other stations.  If they are pointed your way - 
> they can hear well.  When pointed in another direction - not so much.  
> Some folks have multiple beverages, and it can take a minute to cycle 
> between them all to listen in different directions.
>
> 160 tends to be noisy, so direction receive arrays can help.  I see 
> the same thing working EU stations.  Some of them hear VERY well - 
> others - not so much.
>
> ON4UN wrote a book on Low band DXing.  Full of lots and lots of great 
> info.
>
> Welcome to Toband!
>
> Tom - VE3CX
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 10:45 PM, Jack <vhfplus at gmail.com 
> <mailto:vhfplus at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Very nice, Cary!
>
>     I tried but many stations who were loud here could not hear me.
>     Very frustrating.
>
>     73,
>
>     Jack, VE4SNA/W6NF
>
>
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>             1. CQ 160m CW (Cary Rubenfeld)
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>         Message: 1
>         Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 18:06:47 +0000
>         From: Cary Rubenfeld <carys1 at gmail.com <mailto:carys1 at gmail.com>>
>         To: "rsm at contesting.com <mailto:rsm at contesting.com>"
>         <rsm at contesting.com <mailto:rsm at contesting.com>>
>         Subject: [RSM] CQ 160m CW
>         Message-ID:
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>         <CANSWbFY16WPF=nEnO-M_EzUL26_FT9_6VkyX61m_JZPS+sfbtQ at mail.gmail.com
>         <mailto:nEnO-M_EzUL26_FT9_6VkyX61m_JZPS%2BsfbtQ at mail.gmail.com>>
>         Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
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>         *CQ 160-Meter Contest, CW
>         <http://3830scores.com/listeditions.php?arg=tKcmgnz3gsgfK
>         <http://3830scores.com/listeditions.php?arg=tKcmgnz3gsgfK>>
>          2017   Jan 27
>            Claimed Score
>         <http://3830scores.com/editionscores.php?arg=tKcmgnz3gsgfK
>         <http://3830scores.com/editionscores.php?arg=tKcmgnz3gsgfK>>*
>
>         Call: *VE4EA <http://3830scores.com/findcall.php?call=VE4EA
>         <http://3830scores.com/findcall.php?call=VE4EA>>*
>
>         Class: *Single Op HP*
>         QTH: Winnipeg
>         Operating Time (hrs): 5.1
>         Location: Canada
>         Summary:   Compare Scores
>         <http://3830scores.com/comparescores.php?arg=tKcmgnz3gsgfK&call=VE4EA
>         <http://3830scores.com/comparescores.php?arg=tKcmgnz3gsgfK&call=VE4EA>>
>         Total: QSOs *311* State/Prov *52* Countries *6* Total Score
>         *86,435*
>
>
>
>         Club: Radiosport Manitoba
>         Comments:     [email] <ve4ea%40rac.ca <http://40rac.ca>>  
>          2017-01-29 20:46:58
>         Wow, what a rush. Anywhere I went on the band, I was "mobbed".
>         I operated
>         the CQ160M the 2nd day only as a remote from our QTH in
>         Southern California
>         back to my home station in Manitoba. Apparently, there were no
>         VE4's active
>         on the first night. The remote almost didn't happen thanks to
>         a failed
>         WIN10 version update on my travelling laptop the week before
>         departure.
>         Many thanks to my genies-in-a-bottle W1VE and VE4JBB who spent
>         many hours
>         working on it (remotely). Everything worked well, as it
>         should, except for
>         internet connectivity which is both slow and jittery from our
>         condo. I
>         experienced many drop-outs. I apologize if I wasn't able to
>         get your call
>         or complete the Q. Several times, I had to QRT to let the
>         internet settle
>         down. In fact, I would appreciate hearing from anyone with
>         signal reports
>         or how I sounded via remote. 73, Cary VE4EA K3,KPA500 (450W)
>         Modified,
>         Zig-Zag "C" antenna K3/0 and Microbit RemoteRig.
>
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