Thanks to Joe (KB9SIZ) et al for the settings on the P38. Not sure if a copy of the manual is needed at this point, but if so will take Joe up on his offer of a copy for $20. Also, and as for the buffers, I know the use of "-" is personal to the operator. All I know is that I seem to have had less requests for repeats without. YMMV 73, Doug W4OX